When will we get the PVP system for PVE ?

[LunaTsukihime]

Ever since they introduced the combos and streamlined structure I've been wondering when they will implement this for the normal PVE gameplay.

It will not only reduce skill bloat by a lot again it will make the gameplay smoother as well.

Of course there would need to be slight changes made to it.

But classes right now in PVP feel way better, like Dragoon feels more like a proper FF Dragoon with the PVP changes compared to PVE counterpart. (Try it out)

So yeah, will we ever see it?
I hope so, it would improve the game a lot.

Edit: since to many people seem to get/want to get the wrong idea, I'm only talking about having the improvement not cut out all skills, just having the combos consolidated and skills put together in autoadvancing skillslots.

[dotsforlife]

Please don't encourage such atrocities... This game is already dumbed down as it is. They don't need to push the only good side of the game left into PvP's current mediocrity. A handful of skills could use a rework for sure, but that's it.

[Silica-chan]

I wouldn't mind it. If it means I don't have to switch through my skillsets (I'm on PS4) that would definitly make it less stressful for me.

[Zumi]

Please don't encourage such atrocities... This game is already dumbed down as it is. They don't need to push the only good side of the game left into PvP's current mediocrity. A handful of skills could use a rework for sure, but that's it.

Its not dumbing down it fixes button bloat.

[dotsforlife]

Its not dumbing down it fixes button bloat.

Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.

Changing a basic 1-2-3 to the "pvp" system as OP likes to call it is one thing, but putting the same system in place for PvE would be a disaster.

[Reynhart]

Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.

What job can you possibly be playing so that "fusing a combo in a single slot" is "half your kit" ?

Considering that this could also technically increase the number of skills without touching the number of slots.

[dotsforlife]

What job can you possibly be playing so that "fusing a combo in a single slot" is "half your kit" ?

Are you serious?

Hitting 1 2 3 does not take more skill than hitting 1 button that changes. Changing skills would save so much space on the cross hotbar.

There's more to a kit than a single 123 rotation ya know.

[Miste]

What job can you possibly be playing so that "fusing a combo in a single slot" is "half your kit" ?

To be fair MNK has a current PVE setup where it has multiple branches so there is choice involved (if you ignore 100% optimization anyway, like I know mathematically there is only 1 best way but most players cannot achieve this).

PVE MNK:
Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Snap Punch
Dragon Kick > True Strike > Snap Punch
Dragon Kick > True Strike > Demolish
Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Demolish
Boot Shine > True Strike > Demolish
Boot Shine > Twin Snakes > Demolish
Boot Shine > Twin Snakes > Snap Punch
Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap Punch

PVP MNK:
Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap Punch
Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Demolish

Obvious difference is obvious. One of these modes has way more choices and options. Which is why making this an optional thing would likely not work since it would likely cause imbalance.

SAM would have the same problem since it has 3 combos that branch off of Hakaze, if you notice for PVP they simply removed Hakaze. Removing abilities in order to make this system work is dumbing it down in my opinion.

[Zumi]

Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.

Changing a basic 1-2-3 to the "pvp" system as OP likes to call it is one thing, but putting the same system in place for PvE would be a disaster.

Hitting 1 2 3 does not take more skill than hitting 1 button that changes. Changing skills would save so much space on the cross hotbar.

[bswpayton]

Please don't encourage such atrocities... This game is already dumbed down as it is. They don't need to push the only good side of the game left into PvP's current mediocrity. A handful of skills could use a rework for sure, but that's it.

I dont see how consolidating combos would be a bad thing , do u get that much extra game play from pushing a few extra buttons thats the same thing people got upset about cleric stance , and now many healers love how cleric is now