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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Because they have a tool to make sure that they're matched with same minded people, specifically created to set additionnal requirements.
    Yes, and people who want to always do slow runs also have that same tool to make sure they're matched with same minded people, specifically created to set additional requirements.

    You do realize the Duty Finder does not list "slow" or "fast" as a requirement right? So they are equally not an established requirement.in DF. So why do you seem to think "speedrun" is an additional requirement, but "slow run" isn't?

    PF is there for anyone who is 100% unwilling to compromise on certain things. That includes people who ALWAYS want slow runs and will never adjust to speedrunners and it also applies to speedrunners who will NEVER adjust to slow down for slower runs. Both sides need to use PF in this case OR they have to accept the fact they may not get the group they want, or that they will have to adjust, or that they may get kicked for their refusal to compromise to a majority.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    This is not a double standard, this is a lowest common denominator, because that's how the Duty Finder works. The only restrictions you can set is language. If you set all languages when you queue but then kick someone because he doesn't speak the langage you prefer, you're the one to blame.
    Yes, exactly, the only requirements are language and item level. So "slow" or "fast" are not in the requirements either. You are not required by the DF to go fast just as you are not required by the DF to go slow, which means both would be considered additional requirements.

    So if you always wanted to speedrun and would never compromise you should use PF, but also if you always wanted to slow run and would never compromise you should also use PF.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, I have the Duty Finder saying "They have the right to be there by my standards, so deal with it". And, like I said, it also applies to me if I'm the one asking for higher requirements, so again, no "double standard".
    So these "higher requirements" are just things you personally pick and choose? Is there something in-game that says what are "higher requirements"? Does the DF explain what is a "higher requirement"?

    I've been playing since launch and I don't see where the game outlines what is a "higher requirement" so it seems to me you are just trying to dictate what is considered a "higher requirement" that has to be done in PF only. There is no objectivity to it, you just pick and choose based on subjective opinion. Objectively we need to look at what DF requires and then see what isn't listed.

    So again, 3 people want a speedrun and have majority and you admit on tank that if you didn't want to speedrun you would expect them to just "deal with it" and they cannot kick you. Why are you allowed to force them to go slow and they have no choice but to obey you and they cannot force their play style on you otherwise they are in the wrong but you can freely force your play style on them and be innocent of any wrong? (This is a double standard by the way, you are allowed to do something that your opposition isn't allowed to do)


    PS. You have had double standards everywhere in your posts, sorry, either you just don't want to accept that or you don't understand what a double standard is.
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    Last edited by Miste; 11-23-2017 at 10:26 PM.