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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    This is not how majority works, and you can't brush it off when you're dealing with such small groups.
    This game does brush it off, and I'll bet money on that it won't change, ever.

    As long as you match the Duty Finder expectation, you're in your right...
    And if you want to have a no expectations except meeting the ilvl for the duty, and whatever else is fair game, you use the party finder. See how that works. If the majority of the group wants to speedrun, then that's fair game in DF. DF is about helping fill up parties, nothing more. If you expect anything other than a party found for you, use PF. However, if someone is new, and they speak up, most groups in DF are actually accomodating. Instead of demanding "It must be this way", maybe try communicating and asking nicely (this is aimed at the populace that does make ultimatum-like demands, on both sides, not you specifically)? When I've done it, I've found the groups work with me. For example if I say I'm new, the group will be like "Okay, no problem, let's roll with it." - I'm willing to meet the group in the middle, they'll also meet me in the middle. Compromise via communication. But the way I see it, if you're not willing to make a compromise either way, you use PF.

    And yes, when I say both sides, I mean both sides. 3 people wanna speedrun, 1 wants a slow run? That one person wanting the slow run can either try and reach a compromise with the 3 players (for example if disability or other factors means they can't handle the speedrun pace), accept it'll be a speedrun, or leave/get kicked. Similarly, 3 people want a slow run, 1 person wants a speedrun? Again, that speedrun desirer can either try and reach a compromise (for example they're a bit short on time and have to leave for work fairly quickly), accept it'll be a slow run, or leave/get kicked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Way I see it if someone queues into a roulette they should go in with the expectation that they may get a less then ideal run, being a roulette it seems silly that people want to have some control over end result, be it the dungeon or members.
    Yep, when I go into a roulette, I go in with an "I'll get what I get" mentality. Whether it's a speedrun or a slow run, I'll take what I get and roll with it. So long as people are respectful. And if for example there's a speedrun and I have a genuine reason I cannot handle speedrun pace (for example I'm not very well geared and I'm new), I'll speak up about it. 9 times out of 10, the group steps down their pace to meet something I can more reasonably achieve. In these DF groups, communication goes a LONG way.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 11-23-2017 at 08:02 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.