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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I have topped over 6,000 DPS on WHM.
    WOW! 6K DPS!? More than a good DPS player?

    I want to be your friend. Can you tell me how you achieved that many DPS as WHM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    I want to be your friend. Can you tell me how you achieved that many DPS as WHM?
    WHM skills have a huge AoE potency (Holy 100-200 potency and Aero III 50 potency + 40 potency tick; whereas BLMs Fire II is 80 potency and Flare 80-260 potency), so if a healer is good at optimising their healing (spending as many cooldowns as possible on DPS and as little as possible on healing abilities), it's quite normal to bypass actual DPS players on dungeon trash pulls with Aero III and Holy spam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    WHM skills have a huge AoE potency (Holy 100-200 potency and Aero III 50 potency + 40 potency tick; whereas BLMs Fire II is 80 potency and Flare 80-260 potency), so if a healer is good at optimising their healing (spending as many cooldowns as possible on DPS and as little as possible on healing abilities), it's quite normal to bypass actual DPS players on dungeon trash pulls with Aero III and Holy spam.
    I agree that Aero III, Holy and Assize are powerful spells. But, sorry. Not powerful enough to pull off 6K DPS. I think you're overestimating these skills potency.

    Also, if the proper DPS jobs pulls off their AoE abilities, they can pass easily that number. Alas, BLM don't have just Fire II as AoE. They have also Blizzard II, Thunder II (that's AoE DOT), Freeze, Flare, Thunder IV (also AoE DOT) and even Foul. And a good BLM does 5~5.5K DPS on end-game content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    I agree that Aero III, Holy and Assize are powerful spells. But, sorry. Not powerful enough to pull off 6K DPS. I think you're overestimating these skills potency.
    You were saying?



    Edit: On the video on which I saw that pull, the pull lasts 1 min 11 seconds, WHM DPS peaks at 8.5k and is still almost 6k (5938) when the pull is finished.
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    Last edited by Taika; 11-21-2017 at 09:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    You were saying?



    Edit: On the video on which I saw that pull, the pull lasts 1 min 11 seconds, WHM DPS peaks at 8.5k and is still almost 6k (5938) when the pull is finished.
    Sight... In the end you're refering to some thrash pull. But okay, you proved yourself.

    But that bard doing just 1.2K DPS tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Sight... In the end you're refering to some thrash pull. But okay, you proved yourself.
    I'm pretty sure Bourne_Endeavor was referring to a trash pull too, not claiming of pulling 6k DPS in a boss fight or for a whole dungeon...And since me and you were talking about Holy+Aero III+Assize which are what WHMs use in trash pulls. You were the one saying Holy and Aero won't reach 6k DPS, and me and others showed you that they do - and that excellent WHM players such as Sebazy can push much higher than that.

    Edit: Maybe you got this already and there's a language barrier or something? If that's true then sorry for double explaining...
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    Last edited by Taika; 11-21-2017 at 08:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Sight... In the end you're refering to some thrash pull. But okay, you proved yourself.

    But that bard doing just 1.2K DPS tho...
    The initial post talking about 6k DPS was about a trash pull. Pretty sure that was clarified several posts ago by Bourne_Endeavor as well, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    I agree that Aero III, Holy and Assize are powerful spells. But, sorry. Not powerful enough to pull off 6K DPS. I think you're overestimating these skills potency.
    Some figures:

    Regarding the large trash pull leading to The Old one I peak at ~12k DPS over 30 seconds if you chop out the pull. Include the pull and mopping up the stragglers, it's around 7-8k over a minute. Want an easier pull to DPS in? The large Salt Swallow+larvae again in Skalla, I can consistently sustain over 16k dps for that pull which with most roulettes is around 20 to 30 seconds for me. Across the entire dungeon? I'm usually pulling around 3.3k in Skalla, I've never really found a groove to hit the nigh 4k mark that I could in Temple.

    WHM DPS can be incredible (and on a side note, War DPS even more so if the group can mow large pulls down fast enough).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Some figures:

    Regarding the large trash pull leading to The Old one I peak at ~12k DPS over 30 seconds if you chop out the pull. Include the pull and mopping up the stragglers, it's around 7-8k over a minute. Want an easier pull to DPS in? The large Salt Swallow+larvae again in Skalla, I can consistently sustain over 16k dps for that pull which with most roulettes is around 20 to 30 seconds for me. Across the entire dungeon? I'm usually pulling around 3.3k in Skalla, I've never really found a groove to hit the nigh 4k mark that I could in Temple.

    WHM DPS can be incredible (and on a side note, War DPS even more so if the group can mow large pulls down fast enough).
    Holy crow! I had no idea white mage could burst so well. Looking forward to doing this too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
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    3.3K considering the whole dungeon or trial is what I consider what a top-tier WHM with good party does. I don't get to see the parses from trash pulls, since my main source of information is that site of logs and the parses are always from all the duty.
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