Black Mage

[OgruMogru]

I wonder if foul could refresh/grant 3 stacks of whatever UI/AF stance you're in. That would make using it during AF less annoying and would help transition back into AF rotation after a transposed UI phase. Maybe that's too generous though.

[Kabooa]

I think that adding that effect to umbral heart would make our rotation odd since it would make foul not coming up during UI

I'm going to blow your mind with this one, but you don't have to have a perfect 30 second Foul timer / UI window.

[Sfia]

When talking about the relative strength of the casters, people are saying SMN was "overbuffed". I strongly disagree, because with the most recent changes SMN is only now included in the discussion for whether or not it is worth taking in an optimal setup.
This speaks more to the weakness of the entire caster role, and I believe that anyone who considers SMN to be too strong is not looking at the larger picture outside of our role.
BLM damage contribution needs to exceed that of SMN (including it's personal damage and utility from radiant/contagion/devotion) due to SMN having access to raise and incredible mobility.
RDM does also face issues, but it's my personal opinion that if it has access to such powerful progression tools it's total damage contribution needs to be noticeably lower than the other casters.

But I didn't make this thread to talk about RDM tbh, whereas discussion of SMN's strength is useful as it serves as a benchmark which BLM should (at the bare minimum) be reaching.

[Shiroe]

blm need a fing dps increase, .. again not being able to join progression AND certain farm PFs..

nowonder, blm damage does not merit as a caster in heavy movment end raids (over half of them now), and we have no utility

god damn it, DEVS HAD BETTER NOTICE THIS THREAD AND STARTING POST, EVEN IF THEY PREFER JAPANESE FORUMS AND FIX BLM BEFORE 4.2.. , IT'S NOT EVEN HARD TO FIX BLM

[Llugen]

When talking about the relative strength of the casters, people are saying SMN was "overbuffed". I strongly disagree, because with the most recent changes SMN is only now included in the discussion for whether or not it is worth taking in an optimal setup. This speaks more to the weakness of the entire caster role, and I believe that anyone who considers SMN to be too strong is not looking at the larger picture outside of our role.
BLM damage contribution needs to exceed that of SMN (including it's personal damage and utility from radiant/contagion/devotion) due to SMN having access to raise and incredible mobility.
RDM does also face issues, but it's my personal opinion that if it has access to such powerful progression tools it's total damage contribution needs to be noticeably lower than the other casters.

But I didn't make this thread to talk about RDM tbh, whereas discussion of SMN's strength is useful as it serves as a benchmark which BLM should (at the bare minimum) be reaching.

Ah yes, let the upheaval of the physical meta begin~!

Seriously though, this needs to happen immediately. Physical synergy is insane and pure magic damage buffs are all but gone now, save for Contagion. All the damage buffs that give physical only should also give magical damage, period. And I think double role (i.e. BRD+MCH) should drastically reduce LB generation as well, or some other penalty.

[JohnnyDevo]

And I think double role (i.e. BRD+MCH) should drastically reduce LB generation as well, or some other penalty.

This is real awkward when every party has 4 dps but there are only 3 types of dps.

[Sunako]

This is real awkward when every party has 4 dps but there are only 3 types of dps.

Ya this is almost same than saying two melees or two casters should reduce lb generation as well.

[Llugen]

Easy: MNK SAM are "main" melee and DRG NIN are "auxiliary" melee, and it could function differently for randomly generated duty finder parties vs. premades.


Responding to following post to save posts/space: This fix would apply to DPS only, save for double jobs in tanks/healers (so 2 paladins, etc)

[JohnnyDevo]

Easy: MNK SAM are "main" melee and DRG NIN are "auxiliary" melee.

So which healer and which tank are the sole "main" or "auxiliary" in their respective category?

[JohnnyDevo]

Responding in a separate post because why are you worried about saving space on page 73 of a megathread.

I'm gonna have to heavily disagree with that suggestion. Under your model, you're strangling possible DPS compositions. The possible DPS comps without a repeat DPS drops to 24 from 126