Black Mage

[Komaru_Tatoro]

avg players are the ppl coming into the omega at the gear set they achive at the time. right now ppl that have 340 and 345 weap raised the bar so high on o1s and o2s that those avg incoming players are getting 35%tile or less.
im talking about ppl just getting thier first clear and following few weeks and not how they on farm already.
ppl that even use log usually are the mote proactive players that wants better dps. thats when they go on farm their numbers should in thoery get better but im like said i dont consider those avg.
i guess an avg player imo is common ffxiv players that just do the content for clears only, thus why i have a hardship to lump their %tile on todays optimized/padded numbers.

[Remedi]

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Tbh I don't disagree with what sfia said It's just I was talking generally not really on the high end spectrum to try and rationalize SE stance on what they said

[zuzu-bq]

The problem is that SE seems to want to balance them all only by average player's output. Which makes better players realize some jobs are just too much better at high skill level so the average players ditch the not so good and bad jobs to play the better jobs even though they won't get much benefit out of doing so.

[Dualgunner]

those percentile for the avg player should be shifted to 35%tile now because some many players on fflog are starting to do optimization/speed kill/whole team buffs 1 sole player to boost/padd numbers.
plus ppl getting better gears.
if you look back just a shy few weeks ago logs the todays equivalent %tile is much lower

Do you have any evidence that the pool is filled with a bunch of players who don't have gear? The one thing FFLogs lacks is the ability to tell the iLv of people entered in.

[Sylvain]

I wish there would be a way to see potency per sec. At least it wouldn't be gear dependant and allow you to see if your lower damage is caused by gear or poor rotation / execution.

[Remedi]

The problem is that SE seems to want to balance them all only by average player's output. Which makes better players realize some jobs are just too much better at high skill level so the average players ditch the not so good and bad jobs to play the better jobs even though they won't get much benefit out of doing so.

True that, though not sure if they have a choice in that

That said they ditched one job to make sure that balance was all right so I'd say we should still make them know it

[Llugen]

Angry bump because there are people thinking that RDM needs help right now, which to be fair it is undertuned now that SMN is a god, but seriously wait your damn turn.

[Dualgunner]

Angry bump because there are people thinking that RDM needs help right now, which to be fair it is undertuned now that SMN is a god, but seriously wait your damn turn.

What a childish post. I'm sorry that amid the dozens of BLM balance posts, someone dared to make a thread about RDM balance. If you're really gonna act like that, wait your damn turn: Dark Knight and Monk are ahead of you.

[Remedi]

No offense but as much as I agree that both jobs needs some adjustments I don't think bickering like this will be of any help

[Dualgunner]

Neither do I. I also think its stupid to act like balancing is, or should be, a line. Both jobs need buffs; I concede Black Mage is in a worse spot than Red Mage right now, but there is no "wait your turn"; issues are issues whether or not it's that job's "turn".