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[Sieben79]

I played a lot of other mmos before starting with this one, there is no other mmo that i can remember that forces you to be a half dps as healer. In compare to many other mmos, here you are as healer the asshole for everything and its allways your fault. I realy dont like that and for me its destroying the fun playing a healer class.

Hmm, but this isn't like other mmos and for that im glad.

Try to weave in some damage skills if there's no need for healing and the "harassment" will stop. I don't know your playstyle or how you act in instances but

I have played Healer only since last month, before that i only lvled them through potd to 60

this is no foundation for good healing.

Start with lower dungeons even if they bores you to death, but I think it is a good training to learn about healing and your healing/ damage tools

[Mycow8me]

Not in total disagreement with the Op. The game could use more soft enrages. Raid recovery after deadly situations is almost moot cause most groups will just wipe it and start over. Is that how it should be? Raid recovery situations are pretty neat scenarios where high player skill and the ability to adapt really shine. Soft enrages allow recovery situations up to enrage. Maybe its not the meta that is the problem but enrages.

How about some enrage mechanics? Shinryu EX brought an interesting soft enrage. Improve upon that and get even more creative. Make DPS only the main priority during the final moments of a fight or during breif periods within a fight. Phase pushing and whatnot would still be a thing.

[Xlantaa]

It is not a problem on the direction of the game. It is a problem on the direction of the community. Community is the only responsible of this situation. A community which don't let tank be tanks and healer be healers.

[HoodRat]

It is not a problem on the direction of the game. It is a problem on the direction of the community. Community is the only responsible of this situation. A community which don't let tank be tanks and healer be healers.

Tanks and healers can contribute dps while still performing their role's responsibilities. You don't have to choose one over the other, you can do both.

[Ghastly]

They focused on defensive skills for warrior so they're going in the right direction but I'm glad they still add dps skills to tanks, damaging should always be a fun/important part of ANY class regardless of their role. Yoshida has it right, there's no need to change.

[Xlantaa]

Tanks and healers can contribute dps while still performing their role's responsibilities. You don't have to choose one over the other, you can do both.

Well, of course I mean demand it in a extreme way. For example, a Tank can stay in tank stance all the time with not problem. They still can do DPS. But some people say that if a tank doesn't drop tan stance and star doing massive DPS like a DPS job they sucks balls. That's the problem. A tank cannot avoid do DPS, even when tank is doing DPS. Otherwise, healer is a total different story. They DPS can be 0, and still be a healer.

Problem is the way the community demand it. In my case, I don't care if a healer deal 0 DPS or if the tank is doing the minimum DPS to keep aggro. When I tank I go full DPS (well, depending on healer of course) as long I can keep the aggro and resist the damage. But that's play a tank in a very high level. While a tank can stay in tnk stance, keep aggro, deal minimum damage and use CD. They are NOT bad tanks they are standard/normal tanks. Which is perfectly fine. The problem is blame this normals tanks as "if they sucks". That's the problem. The demand is too high.

[Tint]

Tanks and healers can contribute dps while still performing their role's responsibilities. You don't have to choose one over the other, you can do both.

so when i don't have to choose because i can do more than one thing - why does the trinity even exist?

either fix the trinity and restore the tank and healer identity or get rid of it...

[Krotoan]

While I'd like to see healers casting more heals and less damage spells that is something which may cause the game to be too difficult for an unknown percentage of players. But, can we both agree people who play healers are not more lazy than players of other roles?

Not my intention at all to imply healers are lazy. Totally agree there.

What I'm saying is the lazy healers aren't going to step up if the healing gets more complex. They're going to bail. Leaving less people queuing healer.. though I suppose in the end it'd make the lousy healer pool smaller. If anything I know healing is a thankless job which is why I never do it myself.. so much more fun to poke things with sharp sticks.

[Fyce]

There's no "DPS meta". People (and the game itself) just expect you to be always active when you can.
This translates into using damage skills simply because the healing/mitigation/enmity requirements in the game don't fill 100% of your active time. Also, you can have cases of over-healing/over-mitigation/over-enmity which don't help in any way. You can't, however, have a case of over-damage, meaning that damage will always be welcome once your primary role is done (and not over-done).

In short: there's absolutly no reason to go over what the game requires in terms of healing, mitigation and enmity. Therefore, the only thing left is to deal damage. And since you should always be active to your personal maximum, it means using damage skills. But it's not because of a "meta". It's just how the game works.

[SuperZay]

It makes tanking and healing a lot less boring.

It wouldn't be so boring if bosses autoatack the tank for 1/2 HP every hit in Expert Roulette with special moves one-shotting him unmitigated.
Right now I can do Expert without a single tank cooldown and my HP never drops below 60%, which defeats purpose of all these extra abilities.

95% of the game is too easy, that's why it may look boring for tanks and healers.