im the only one hate people get first kill with unsync?

[bswpayton]

I've never unsynced content for my first clear of anything and dont really understand the draw of it. I think it being in the game lowers the skill level of the player base at large and provides a false sense of accomplishment. Further,

I dont like unsync myself , but its a small percent of people that even do current endgame content, so the number of those whom wana do old content sync is even smaller, but to those new players that come along that want to experience the whole game. Many will just go with what the norm is (unsync) just because its literally the only option available to them to do this content. I had a newbie in nn wana do sync coil, I was only mentor to offer to help him sync it and thats because I myself never was able to do coil sync and refused to do it unsync.

This is just how things go and sadly its nothing we can do about it, nothing is gona change, unsync is the norm and is here to stay and each expansion every new player will end up going from easy dungeons to doing their first ex primal and possibly getting discouraged because the challenge from dungeon to primal is pretty significant. The only way this would change is if the player base decided to do content sync which thats not gona happen so just one of those things people have to deal with.

[Tsumdere]

Does the fact that people can unsync keep you up at night?

[InkstainedGwyn]

What I always hear out of these threads is: "I want my status symbols to stay status symbols and it burns me when other people get them."

On one hand, yeah, the other people get them in a manner easier than you did, so that sucks. I can understand that feeling of frustration. However, by the time they do that, they're not actual status symbols anymore, so you got yours at a time when people recognised it as meaning you did The Hard Stuff and Won That Roll.

I, for one, am a filthy casual who is very glad that the game doesn't eternally gate its stuff out of the realm of someone who doesn't have double-digit hours to play, and who, quite frankly, doesn't have the time/energy/nerves to raid top-tier content at its release. So if that means that I get to admire the folks who got Alte Roite now and wait a year or two for my chance to get it, that's okay. I acknowledge that you got it 'when it was hard'. You're good at hard content, and you ran it enough to get your drop. I'm not. That's fine.

What I hate is the attitude that 'it should always be hard'. Because, let's be real. With O4S and Ultimate Savage out, most raid statics (and I did say most, I'm well aware that ones exist to do older content) aren't going to ever touch the old 'done' content again. And for what it's worth, those of us who aren't getting the newest drops don't usually look at those folks who do have it in awe. We say "hey cool you do the hard content grats good job, I'm glad you can do what you enjoy" and keep moving. (Yes, I'm well aware that there are folks calling for the current content to be nerfed and I don't agree with that, either. I want everybody who plays the game to have content that suits their playstyle.)

If you're looking for status symbols, maybe XIV isn't the game for you. They always exist here, but they're recycled, and you're going to constantly have to work to get the newest "status symbol". Although... that sounds a lot like what I hear people saying they want - constant challenge - so... ?

[MOZZYSTAR]

A friend of mine is like this. He wants to try all of the ex-primals sync before farming them unsync. I think I was always too afraid to try ex-primals so didnt' do them, even unsync, until I faced the final MSQ primal in SB. Beating them sync is a reward within itself :3 Though, at this point, I just want a Ravana bird. Dx -flails-

[Malzian]

2 points to make:

1) Unsyncable content is old, currently irrelevant content. Unless you go fully synced with both Level and iLvl, you're still not doing the content at the difficulty set when it was released.
2) If you want to get your first kill synced, you can still go ahead and do that and feel good that while other people may need the unsynched crutch... You were able to do it the hard way.

I just don't get how everything in every game these days needs to be a contest... I play for myself and my enjoyment, not yours. If I find people who want to do something unsynced then that decision only affects me and them and has no bearing at all on you and your experience. Spend less time worrying about what other people are doing and focus on yourself and you won't have to hate anyone for these things.

[Singularity]

I refuse to ever kill something for the first time unsynced (or with Echo or gear higher than was available at the time etc.). For me that defeats the entire point of having a challenge in the game. Sometimes that means I clear stuff very late, but I assure you it is possible to do.

It's not for me to tell others how they should play or what they should value though. I'd never try to stop anyone else from unsyncing if they don't feel the same way.

[bswpayton]

2 points to make:

1) Unsyncable content is old, currently irrelevant content. Unless you go fully synced with both Level and iLvl, you're still not doing the content at the difficulty set when it was released.
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honestly most content with how gear works in this game is irrelevant , if people still farming for 340 gear 24 man gear, shinyru weapons etc. All of it will be replaced in two in a half months, thats why I dont really get the whole content is irrelevant thing it is for gear yea. But in this game gear is irrelevant for the most part if you really look at it because its constantly being replaced anyway. Perfect example of this is lets say at the end of hw everyone is gettin their jobs to ilvl 260 to 270 for sb, if someone spamed the story that gear was only useful for about a week in a half once they got verity gear.

This game is just chasing the new gear when in the end none of it really matters what really matters is having content to do , and we discredit content because its old when we really shouldnt especially if we have never done it. Because the gear in this game honestly doesnt matter for any signficant amount of time anyway.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

its so useless in my opinion..
u dont learn the fight, no fun. - snip --
for me SE should do first kills only Sync doable.

I also enjoy the experience of being in a duty for the first time while at the correct level, with a full party of first timers so I try to do them on launch day but with old content, that is impossible unless you set up a pre made partyfinder group or premade group outside of partyfinder.

Set up a partyfinder group that specifies "First time & Synced run only!" in the notes and make sure the people who join, understand that you are intentionally running it synced for the challenge of doing the content as it was originally intended. Check the "first time okay" box and other specs you want.

I see these groups in partyfinder often and some of them are for the challenge, others are to learn but with Wondrous tales and relic runs, the general idea is to get in and out quickly so its not an ideal place for first time runs or other intentional, time consuming constraints so when you que for those, expect people to be interested in getting in and out asap.

While your synced gear stats and The Power of Echo bonus might still make it impossible to legitimately run it as it was run when it was current content, it is as close as you can get without actually being the appropriate level and putting on gear leveled appropriately for the original duty's level.

[kikix12]

Wouldn't mind it so much if unsynced removed any rewards.

It removes experience and standard mob drops. That's enough of a penalty.

Will be an absolute joke in a few months time. And absolute rofl stomp few months after that.

If a "few months time" is a lot for you, then you should stop playing MMO games. At least RPG ones. Most people get bored of there being nothing to do after a short while, and there's nothing to do after a short while for them because the only content available is something that doesn't give them new shiny stuff better than what they had. If they had to wait for a year or more for new content, the game would be a complete wasteland...and closed.

Destroys a lot of the incentive to even try and earn anything in the game.

Again, if that's what you think, then this genre is not for you. If your incentive is not getting better but having and sitting on the top gear at the time for infinity, then go to single-player games where you can max characters and gears, and then do as you please with them.

And then people / devs wonder why players just aren't that motivated. Or why raiding pops are so low.

Raiding populations are low because raids are more challenging and require more ability to cooperate. Many people are unable to properly do the slightly harder dungeons, without taking advantage of the leeway they give.
Also, raids are where the hardcore players focus, and those players have very unfavorable opinions within the community. And getting a full raid of friends is something that only hardcore players can reasonably expect to get, ironically.

To begin with, only old dungeons are allowed to be made unsynced, anyway. And even then, unless there was an level cap increase, you will STILL need a party to actually clear the dungeons effectively. So yeah, unsynced does not decrease somethings value for many, many months.

[Khemorex]

i have no words XD