im the only one hate people get first kill with unsync?

[DreamAngel-Ren]

It is pretty unfair because they didn't have to go through the struggle of learning the mechanics, making mistakes, and perhaps get booted for not delivering enough DPS to defeat the EX primal. Now, it only takes them maybe 4 mins and boom they're done; and to put a cherry on top, the drop rate for the pony/bird is crazy high so they get those easily.

It hurts :[

EDIT: However, on the other hand, having unsynced is good because it makes farming quick paced and ppl get their whistles or mats at a faster rate; well depends on how fast the item drops lol.

[Avatre]

and to put a cherry on top, the drop rate for the pony/bird is crazy high so they get those easily.

I wish that were the case. Even after the drop increase, it took me 95 runs of Sophia to get that bird. I still have Zurvan to get, but since I've only ever cleared it once(and at that, it was unsynced after SB), not sure how effective I would be joining a farm...will have to do it eventually, but still.

[aesteval]

It is pretty unfair because they didn't have to go through the struggle of learning the mechanics, making mistakes, and perhaps get booted for not delivering enough DPS to defeat the EX primal. Now, it only takes them maybe 4 mins and boom they're done; and to put a cherry on top, the drop rate for the pony/bird is crazy high so they get those easily.

It hurts :[

EDIT: However, on the other hand, having unsynced is good because it makes farming quick paced and ppl get their whistles or mats at a faster rate; well depends on how fast the item drops lol.

...that's a very deliberate design decision on the part of the devs.

[Dzian]

Wouldn't mind it so much if unsynced removed any rewards.

Everything loses value so fast in this game. Even those awesome weapons locked behind ultimate coil. Will be an absolute joke in a few months time. And absolute rofl stomp few months after that.

Destroys a lot of the incentive to even try and earn anything in the game.

Originally felt really proud of my final witness title for clearing coils. Then soon as 3.0 landed bam just another worthless title that means nothing.

And then people / devs wonder why players just aren't that motivated. Or why raiding pops are so low.

[kikix12]

Wouldn't mind it so much if unsynced removed any rewards.

It removes experience and standard mob drops. That's enough of a penalty.

Will be an absolute joke in a few months time. And absolute rofl stomp few months after that.

If a "few months time" is a lot for you, then you should stop playing MMO games. At least RPG ones. Most people get bored of there being nothing to do after a short while, and there's nothing to do after a short while for them because the only content available is something that doesn't give them new shiny stuff better than what they had. If they had to wait for a year or more for new content, the game would be a complete wasteland...and closed.

Destroys a lot of the incentive to even try and earn anything in the game.

Again, if that's what you think, then this genre is not for you. If your incentive is not getting better but having and sitting on the top gear at the time for infinity, then go to single-player games where you can max characters and gears, and then do as you please with them.

And then people / devs wonder why players just aren't that motivated. Or why raiding pops are so low.

Raiding populations are low because raids are more challenging and require more ability to cooperate. Many people are unable to properly do the slightly harder dungeons, without taking advantage of the leeway they give.
Also, raids are where the hardcore players focus, and those players have very unfavorable opinions within the community. And getting a full raid of friends is something that only hardcore players can reasonably expect to get, ironically.

To begin with, only old dungeons are allowed to be made unsynced, anyway. And even then, unless there was an level cap increase, you will STILL need a party to actually clear the dungeons effectively. So yeah, unsynced does not decrease somethings value for many, many months.

[Lodinn]

If they had to wait for a year or more for new content, the game would be a complete wasteland...and closed.

Objection! Wasteland - yes, closed - not yet. Source: personal experience with SWTOR and roughly 2 years of no new content. Old content was much much more replayable and replayed though. Know why?
Unsync being much less drastic (running a lvl60 raid as fully geared lvl65 raid group is like doing primals synced, i.e. having max ilvl available. No more than that basically), way more instakill mechanics which are not just "don't stay in bad" and later on, sync up and not down so you retain abilities and so on.

Back on topic: Git gud OP.
I've first cleared all the primals in sync and yes, getting a group for titan/garuda/ifrit took days. But are you actually commited or not?
If you want bragging rights, go kill UCoB and it will last you until 4.2, probably more. Not good enough? Well here your bragging rights go.

Even now, you can't be completely oblivious to say a8s mechanics and still beat it. You had to have a tiny clue about o4s mechanics would you choose to kill it sync in 3.0. And theeen, you can underman and opt for some fun learning and devising new strats for undermanning. Half of this thread is saying you this, unsync allows you to do more, not less. If you feel offended... I don't know even. Try not to cry so much?

[Chiramu]

Wouldn't mind it so much if unsynced removed any rewards.

This is my issue with people grinding mounts in unsynced. It completely makes all your raid gear irrelevant when unsynced comes around, there is no bragging rights, so there is no point to do content when it comes out, just wait till you can unsync and get your things with less annoyance.

[BillyKaplan]

This is my issue with people grinding mounts in unsynced. It completely makes all your raid gear irrelevant when unsynced comes around, there is no bragging rights, so there is no point to do content when it comes out, just wait till you can unsync and get your things with less annoyance.

But you can only run something unsynced when the next expansion hits, which means you're about 10 levels higher and your gear is at least 100 ilvls higher, two things that kind of matter even when you're synced down to level. But by then the weapons are already irrelevant because it's not your on-level gear - and that's before the fact that with the exception of the very final content tier of the expansion, raid gear becomes outdated within its expansion so that point is moot to begin with. By the time you can unsync this, anyone who ran the content when it was relevant has had several months at least to enjoy bragging rights, running around on their mounts with their glamour weapons, flaunting off their bragging rights, and the clock is already ticking for the UCOB's World First party. Who cares if I'll clear it too once 5.0 hits? Who'll even remember this content by then?

[Chiramu]

But you can only run something unsynced when the next expansion hits...

It doesn't matter when you can run it unsynced, why would you bother putting time into it when you can run it easier just by waiting a little bit?

[Reinha]

It doesn't matter when you can run it unsynced, why would you bother putting time into it when you can run it easier just by waiting a little bit?

For the same reason people level some of their alts at the beginning of an expansion instead of waiting for exp increases and more efficient ways to level. Because they don't want to wait.