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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Exactly, that's why I argue that the skill pruning and forced 9 button standard was unnecessary. But a lot of players just won't hear otherwise now :/
    We should go to 9 buttons for PvE as well. Because there are too many buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    We should go to 9 buttons for PvE as well. Because there are too many buttons.
    There's also toxic players. Better restrict chat too.
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    I'm not against a open world PVP zone, but maybe you should leave casual stuff out of it. Put your own original ideas. Cuz reading this it seems most people use fates and beastribe as an excuse and toxic players. Toxic players probably wouldn't go away. But at least casual people can finish their lore filled beastribes, or their ixion type fate with an reward at the end.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    I'm not against a open world PVP zone, but maybe you should leave casual stuff out of it. Put your own original ideas. Cuz reading this it seems most people use fates and beastribe as an excuse and toxic players. Toxic players probably wouldn't go away. But at least casual people can finish their lore filled beastribes, or their ixion type fate with an reward at the end.
    Why couldn't casuals participate? That was the whole reason we have 9 buttons in PvP. The logic is falling apart saying that casuals couldn't participate.
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    Oh I think they mean "leave casual content out of an open world PvP zone", which I'd say is fair. That way no one feels like they HAVE to go in lest they miss something, and those who would engage in ganking or other activities like that couldn't prey upon people who aren't willing to deal with said possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Oh I think they mean "leave casual content out of an open world PvP zone", which I'd say is fair. That way no one feels like they HAVE to go in lest they miss something, and those who would engage in ganking or other activities like that couldn't prey upon people who aren't willing to deal with said possibility.
    I think timed events like Fates could be relevant though. It keeps people engaged in the zone or getting to keep it for their GC. If your GC holds the resource you get a bonus of more GC seals. It wouldn't be go kill XYZ NPC. It would be hold the node for X time or whoever holds it by the end of it. Think of a Node in Seize but once you capture it, you hold it for a few hours. I don't think the OP meant an Ixion like fate but more of a resource that is captured and is on a timer like a fate.

    We could call it a P.A.T.E.
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    Last edited by Wintersandman; 11-16-2017 at 04:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Oh I think they mean "leave casual content out of an open world PvP zone", which I'd say is fair. That way no one feels like they HAVE to go in lest they miss something, and those who would engage in ganking or other activities like that couldn't prey upon people who aren't willing to deal with said possibility.
    This this this is all I am saying. Leave the casual content like Beast Tribe and fates out of this open world PVP zone and I’m all for it. So that people who just want to do the fates and Beast Tribe content aren’t just ganker bait.
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    Last edited by Kisagami; 11-16-2017 at 04:55 AM.

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    PvP-centric F.A.T.E.s in an owpvp area would be great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    PvP-centric F.A.T.E.s in an owpvp area would be great!
    I approve. If they were PVP-centric only, I wouldn’t feel like I was locked out of anything.
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    Taisynn Arghal of Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    I approve. If they were PVP-centric only, I wouldn’t feel like I was locked out of anything.
    This is what the OP was trying to communicate.
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