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    Oscura's Avatar
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    like what the guy your warning did. If you read the "ban all parser user" post you will see WHY he said it.
    No matter what the reason is it doesn't change the fact that it's still toxic. Just because someone's dog was killed by a person of a different race doesn't mean that suddenly everyone of that race is terrible. There is literally no excuse for the toxic mindset of "ban all parser users and parsers are toxic + parser users are toxic." It's just hypocritical, just stop defending it. If it was justifiable because it's against the rules Yoshida and co. would've already banned all the top raiders, and anyone who is seen streaming with parsers or mentions using them even on the forums. Kind of weird how you can say you use them on the forum and it's fine, but can't mention it in game actually.


    Unrelated to the quoted message, let this be a lesson learned. Don't make a blog post on the forum about healer or tank DPS and not expect it to become some big debate about parsers. You were asking for it. Anti-parsers will whine "grr parsers did it yet again," calling it toxic, and pro-parsers will yell at you to "git gud." Then they'll fight.

    Also, by the way, I can't believe people are seriously debating about someone being kicked from party finder or hunt groups. A PF leader can kick for any reason, including DPS. As long as they don't mention parsing or numbers there is no grounds for bans or warning. The only bannable or even "offense" period was that FFlogs were mentioned. The developer team or Yoshida has never gone on record saying that kicking anyone in party finder for any reason could break any rules.

    Sorry about the things you had to go through OP, personally at least if I'm doing ex primals so long as my tanks can tank and my healers can heal I just deal with how they want to play. At most one tank wouldn't make enough of a difference in time for me to actually care, especially in a pug.
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    Last edited by Oscura; 11-15-2017 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    snip.
    the OP mention getting kicked from dungeons from low dps, which is mostly seen through parser.

    and was removed from a shin ex pt before queue over fflogs.

    And yes they did, or vote kick abuse wouldn't be a thing
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    the OP mention getting kicked from dungeons from low dps, which is mostly seen through parser.
    My gf got kicked from a dungeon yesterday for being afk for 10 seconds and also friend of mine got harrased being shit in a dungeon yet they were top performer in a group. And?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    are saying it in your own words. "Vote kick abuse." You do not vote to kick someone from party finder. One single person kicks you. There is no "kick abuse" in party finder period.
    Sorry I meant ''you'' as in a player not you as you!
    And yes I agree with the quote I quoted you on. And also I don't asume anything. I've seen whm's pull 3k dps in lost city skalla whtever its called while a SAM or a RDM does less. Tanks the same over 3k dps or near and dps lower.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 11-15-2017 at 12:42 AM.