Patch 4.2

[Silver-Strider]

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This is entirely server based and some servers have it easier than others. On my server at least, the marketing is horrible. Trying to sell anything is such a hassle since everyone will just undercut you to a point that you're literally selling things just slightly above vendor value for some items. I put a stack of Rhea for 1,250 gil a few days ago (Which was just 50 gil below the average) I go check it today, it's now dropped to below 700 gil. The crafted 320 gear for Disciples of War/Magic on my server has literally not sold for the past 2 months, barring tank accessories.

That isn't to say that it isn't possible to play Shopping Wars but again, it's not exactly the same between servers.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

The main problem is the supply. people really should get off this so n so owns more then 1 and get on the WTF SE you have 7500 active players on a server and only 2,880 houses thats not even counting Fcs, (keep in mind your active character counts count all 8 of my characters). SE needs to "Man Up" and realse a crap ton more houses no more excuses they have the money.

Yet the way the system is currently set up and the figure you gave as an example would mean, SE would need to have 60,000 houses to make sure that each player can own 8 houses.

To me this is a crazy and a broken system I mean Bismark has what 12k playerbase? that's 96k houses needed and that's just for each person to have 1 house, if we start adding in that each person can have 1 fc house and 1 personal, we are now talking 120,000 houses by your example and 192k for Bismark. Yet you cant see that this system is broken.....

The system needs changing so that each player can have 1 house and 1 FC house per account that can be shared by all alts. Oh and BTW this is coming from someone with 1 account and 3 alts.

[Rinuko]

This is entirely server based and some servers have it easier than others. On my server at least, the marketing is horrible. Trying to sell anything is such a hassle since everyone will just undercut you to a point that you're literally selling things just slightly above vendor value for some items. I put a stack of Rhea for 1,250 gil a few days ago (Which was just 50 gil below the average) I go check it today, it's now dropped to below 700 gil. The crafted 320 gear for Disciples of War/Magic on my server has literally not sold for the past 2 months, barring tank accessories.

That isn't to say that it isn't possible to play Shopping Wars but again, it's not exactly the same between servers.

While 320 gear isnt selling as much anymore Rhea is still used in i325 crafter gear so you could craft the Rhea cloths

[Rinuko]

The system needs changing so that each player can have 1 house and 1 FC house per account that can be shared by all alts. Oh and BTW this is coming from someone with 1 account and 3 alts.

Nothing going to happen to current system. Let's face it they not going to make a groundbreaking tableflip on the house system.
I'll still have my 3 houses (FC+2 personal on alt and main).

Even if they did change it they would to reconpensate us who own more than 1 house and who judge how much time and money i've spend to decorate them

[Keridwyn]

Even if they did change it they would to reconpensate us who own more than 1 house and who judge how much time and money i've spend to decorate them

They would likely give you gil and let you keep the furnishings, just as if the houses had been demoed. Would it be unpopular, sure, just like the timer. But it is an easy way to make the houses they have cover more accounts. That's why it is likely something we will see happen. A bandaid, not a cure.

[Naunet]

To me this is a crazy and a broken system I mean Bismark has what 12k playerbase? that's 96k houses needed and that's just for each person to have 1 house, if we start adding in that each person can have 1 fc house and 1 personal, we are now talking 120,000 houses by your example and 192k for Bismark. Yet you cant see that this system is broken.....

If they used an instanced housing system, this wouldn't be an issue at all.

[Siniztor]

This is entirely server based and some servers have it easier than others. On my server at least, the marketing is horrible. Trying to sell anything is such a hassle since everyone will just undercut you to a point that you're literally selling things just slightly above vendor value for some items. I put a stack of Rhea for 1,250 gil a few days ago (Which was just 50 gil below the average) I go check it today, it's now dropped to below 700 gil. The crafted 320 gear for Disciples of War/Magic on my server has literally not sold for the past 2 months, barring tank accessories.

That isn't to say that it isn't possible to play Shopping Wars but again, it's not exactly the same between servers

Wile i agree it is server base..
I gotta call BS on the bold part im Literally standing on Famfrit now looking at the MB. and your server is selling for more then mine lol If your a crafter you might wanna get back into 320 since HQ smn books 900k (5 sold for)580k+ (9 sold 4) since the 1st gld sword 20+ since the 1st. many many other items chest hats all kinds of classes..

Have you checked your vendors lol since the last stack of rhea sold yesterday at 1,149 gil and your current price is about 2500 a stack lol (2 items below 2500 the rest above) i cant tell when it was under 700 gil cause it all sold out at 800+ gil 2 days ago sales history only goes like 20 sales lol

I had to check since you said literally nothing is selling i couldnt belive i was making 2mil-5mil a day off it and nothing seliing on yours but rings.

[Siniztor]

Yet the way the system is currently set up and the figure you gave as an example would mean, SE would need to have 60,000 houses to make sure that each player can own 8 houses.

To me this is a crazy and a broken system I mean Bismark has what 12k playerbase? that's 96k houses needed and that's just for each person to have 1 house, if we start adding in that each person can have 1 fc house and 1 personal, we are now talking 120,000 houses by your example and 192k for Bismark. Yet you cant see that this system is broken.....

The system needs changing so that each player can have 1 house and 1 FC house per account that can be shared by all alts. Oh and BTW this is coming from someone with 1 account and 3 alts.

yup its the system they went with..they should have to supply the amount of houses needed. oh and you cant go off your theres 12k players on a server cause all the census count logins meaning your 12k counts alts to so your counting them twice in your math problem. If they wanna change there system so be it ill follow the rules as ive stated many times.

But i also stick with its wrong to punish people who followed your rules for years just because now that you have moved people all over its not fair to them. Robbing peter to pay paul is never a good option..Se needs to man up and buy more servers if there gonna keep this ward stuff going or do as many many many people have suggested and do wards/instances

[Silver-Strider]

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So the price went up again on Rhea since I posted. As you said, the prices were at 800+ not that long ago and crafted gear, while more expensive on Famfrit, doesn't necessarily mean profit either as they do sell at a snails pace and mats aren't cheap either.

I'm not saying it's impossible to make money here but it requires a bit more effort that I just don't see many people going that extra mile JUST to maintain some hypothetical rent cost for housing.

[Siniztor]

So the price went up again on Rhea since I posted. As you said, the prices were at 800+ not that long ago and crafted gear, while more expensive on Famfrit, doesn't necessarily mean profit either as they do sell at a snails pace and mats aren't cheap either.

I'm not saying it's impossible to make money here but it requires a bit more effort that I just don't see many people going that extra mile JUST to maintain some hypothetical rent cost for housing.

Like i siad i found it odd you said "The crafted 320 gear for Disciples of War/Magic on my server has literally not sold for the past 2 months" and i was making 2-5 mil off it daily. and by the looks of your mb id be making a ton more since i gather all my mats including sands. If you had just said it wasnt selling fast or any thing i wouldn't of thought much about it but u made a point of saying it literally hasn't sold in 2 months so i wanted to see and well your server has a better market then mine forsure .

As for profitable unless your a half way crafter all the ones i know gather 90% of what they need making there profit worth the time

And the whole point was if you put in time you can make money for rent.....