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    well, i finally got to the end.

    @Sinitzor, i do like your random relinquish timer on the houses. lapsed and fortified houses have a random time on when they become available again. But in my opinion i don't agree with the "i have an account that allows me to have multiple characters, each as as much of a right to a house as your 1 character." mostly because i have had a completely different personal experience with housing than yourself. Having a complete different experience than you has driven me to have a different view point. I also have multiple alts each one with millions of gil, but none of them has a house, just none are available on my server. when Shirogane launched my sob story just resounds those of a 1,000 times over again. my launcher crashed multiple times and after 15 min of trying i got put in a que 1,300 people long and when i finally logged in every single plot in every single district in every single ward was gone. It wasn't because i didn't have the money for a house, or because i didn't try hard enough, i was just unlucky.

    so when someone like myself sees someone with multiple houses across multiple characters, it just makes us feel cheated where i can't have 1 because you want 8. I get that people that own multiple houses across multiple characters has done nothing wrong as well, but when the same people use the argument of "i was here first" it just infuriates me. To someone like me you sound like Marie Antoinette saying "let them eat cake" where you just sound out of touch with the plight of Eorzea's homeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risu0042 View Post
    well, i finally got to the end.

    @Sinitzor, the argument of "i was here first" it just infuriates me.To someone like me you sound like Marie Antoinette saying "let them eat cake" where you just sound out of touch with the plight of Eorzea's homeless.
    I understand theres no houses on your server and as you said you have read the post so you know for a year + i stared at 200+ empy houses.What irratates me is for a year no one batted a eye till they got free transfers.. people saying ive tried for 3 years to get a house. well housing wasnt your top prioty cause there was tons of servers with empty plots all you had to do it pay to transfer. yes you leave friends or fc but you get your house or houses, no you shouldnt have to transfer but IT was a option and you would of got a house.my server for example you could of got a med for 8 mil.

    my whole arguement is we followed the rules it clearly states in housing rules (ive post the patch notes with the rules as u seen) every character who meets the requirements can buy a house, its not a loophole or a exploit. my account says i have 8 characters not 1 character and 7 alts. Since we broke no rules i cant stand the pitch fork weilding take there homes away cause were on the server now and want them. If they change the rules so be it but in no way is it fair to take homes away from people who broke n rules just cause you moved in.

    The rage needs to be aimed at SE if your gonna keep this ward system then supply enough homes for all characters simple enough. Stop making excusses for them they get our money put it to use buy more servers or what ever you need. The amount of welll SE cant do it .............BS......... they have the money and other games make sure they have enough housing.the rage needs to be pointed at them and off the few who broke no rules
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    Salvaging Current Wards with Vouchers - A Theory

    Go to a vendor for the neighborhood you want and purchase a voucher for a home in that area, offered in S, M, or L. Once enough vouchers for a full ward are purchased those first 36 players will have a new ward opened for them to pick the house they want (size pending).

    The next set of 36 will spawn creation of the next ward, therefore eliminating the empty wards open to gold farmers. Limit the housing vouchers to 1 FC and 1 Personal house per server. If you really wanna grind up from scratch across all servers, you should be allowed to have something to show for it.

    I'm not a fan of players losing houses obtained legitimately. I'm just honestly tired, as someone playing since V1 beta, of no chance to buy a house. I was stuck on Balmung, only able to free-transfer off to Coeurl, but it was too late. I wasn't able to log in during the 10 minutes housing was open. I want the opportunity, for me, and the FC I'm leading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolf View Post
    Go to a vendor for the neighborhood you want and purchase a voucher for a home in that area, offered in S, M, or L. Once enough vouchers for a full ward are purchased those first 36 players will have a new ward opened for them to pick the house they want (size pending).

    The next set of 36 will spawn creation of the next ward, therefore eliminating the empty wards open to gold farmers. Limit the housing vouchers to 1 FC and 1 Personal house per server. If you really wanna grind up from scratch across all servers, you should be allowed to have something to show for it.

    I'm not a fan of players losing houses obtained legitimately. I'm just honestly tired, as someone playing since V1 beta, of no chance to buy a house. I was stuck on Balmung, only able to free-transfer off to Coeurl, but it was too late. I wasn't able to log in during the 10 minutes housing was open. I want the opportunity, for me, and the FC I'm leading.
    This is what i cant wrap my head around......how were you stuck? I started two years ago and was able to transfer off my old server by paying $18. The option to move has been there .

    On a side note message me in game Tolf i may be able to help you
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    Loop holes that need fixing

    I find it a problem too, that players purchased a house (any size), get two buddies to start an FC, just to turn their house into an FC for the benefits it offers. This should not be happening. This is another loop hole that needs to be closed.

    You want a workshop, and house buffs, then you should join an FC. Not occupy a large mansion with only 3 players, if that, just to take up desirable, good FC housing.

    On my server the majority of mansions are bought by private owners and I see them with no activity from month to month, only to occupy it long enough so that they don't get evicted.

    The housing situation is a mess, for sure. SE should have seen this coming. They should have had a residential are just for FC housing and not mix it in with privately own properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    The housing situation is a mess, for sure. SE should have seen this coming. They should have had a residential are just for FC housing and not mix it in with privately own properties.
    They should've added a residential area or instances just for personal housing.
    Housing was originally for FC's only, and when they let solo players buy houses for themselves alongside the FC's the situation took a landslide.

    They included solo housing too hastily. They should've waited and figured out a better option that would accomodate all solo players, because there are just too many individuals. How did they not see this would be a problem?
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    With instanced housing, would there be neighborhoods like there is now? I'm not sure if I would go for instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    With instanced housing, would there be neighborhoods like there is now? I'm not sure if I would go for instances.
    That's all up to the devs honestly. They could go with a generic plot of land that you can change the skybox (visuals surrounding the plot) and possibly the ground itself. They could go with a pre-existing ward layout with generic houses and you instance into your plot from the placard so you still technically have a neighborhood. Another choice would be pre-selected destinations that have a decent sized instanced chunk of land where you can edit the plot space and the rest is predecorated (like ward space, but with just your house). Thus far they seem opposed to appointing the resources to escaping the ward system though so I wouldn't expect to even hear about them starting on something like that anytime soon if it's even going to be a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    I find it a problem too, that players purchased a house (any size), get two buddies to start an FC, just to turn their house into an FC for the benefits it offers. This should not be happening. This is another loop hole that needs to be closed.

    You want a workshop, and house buffs, then you should join an FC. Not occupy a large mansion with only 3 players, if that, just to take up desirable, good FC housing.

    On my server the majority of mansions are bought by private owners and I see them with no activity from month to month, only to occupy it long enough so that they don't get evicted.

    The housing situation is a mess, for sure. SE should have seen this coming. They should have had a residential are just for FC housing and not mix it in with privately own properties.
    That's not a loophole though. A FC is a FC regardless of size. SE can't police whenever X FC only have 5 members vs 50, whom of these two FC are allowed to buy a house.

    You may not be fine with it but where do you draw the line?



    Quote Originally Posted by Tolf View Post
    Go to a vendor for the neighborhood you want and purchase a voucher for a home in that area, offered in S, M, or L. Once enough vouchers for a full ward are purchased those first 36 players will have a new ward opened for them to pick the house they want (size pending).

    The next set of 36 will spawn creation of the next ward, therefore eliminating the empty wards open to gold farmers. Limit the housing vouchers to 1 FC and 1 Personal house per server. If you really wanna grind up from scratch across all servers, you should be allowed to have something to show for it.


    I'm not a fan of players losing houses obtained legitimately. I'm just honestly tired, as someone playing since V1 beta, of no chance to buy a house. I was stuck on Balmung, only able to free-transfer off to Coeurl, but it was too late. I wasn't able to log in during the 10 minutes housing was open. I want the opportunity, for me, and the FC I'm leading.
    This is a interesting concept. Would we be assigned a L (in case you buy a L plot voucher) or would you have rush like today to buy the house of my choosing?
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    Last edited by Rinuko; 11-16-2017 at 05:27 PM.

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