Lets speak about Mentor's.

[BillyKaplan]

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And when SE agrees with you, we can continue this discussion. But let's not delude ourselves about why people are even running the roulette to think there's room to make such demands of them. We're not getting paid. We get penalized if we leave. We get mistreated more often than not. And it's funny you brought up a static because if anyone should do it, it's the sprouts who queued directly and got us mentors in that extreme trial in the first place.

[Joe777]

And it's funny you brought up a static because if anyone should do it, it's the sprouts who queued directly and got us mentors in that extreme trial in the first place.

The whole purpose of the Mentor Roulette is so mentors have another roulette they can queue for that lets them help out anyone new to any duty in the game. The 2-seater is the motivation for those that don't queue for that reason. Once they have it they probably never queue again. Other mentors likely still queue for it for the xp as need be, provided they aren't already max level in which case queueing for it means they actually want to help people, or are bored. What you just said though is quite self-centered and is not something a true mentor would say. A crown is a crown, sure, but those that wear it usually try to be good mentors. Those that do not care about being a mentor tend to hide it. If you have a crown showing and aren't actually mentoring then you're probably using it as a status symbol, which is foolish at this point.

Bottom line is: players make the crown what it is, not Square Enix. Square Enix simply controls who can have one, but let everyone get a chance to have one. It all comes down to netiquette. Personally, I think the Mentor System is a bit lacking in actual Mentor Capabilities, such as the freedom to sync your level down to a party member's anytime anywhere in the open world for example.

[Moomba33]

. Other mentors likely still queue for it for the xp as need be, provided they aren't already max level in which case queueing for it means they actually want to help people, or are bored.

You can't get exp from Mentor Roulette as you can only queue for it on max level jobs with high enough ilevel for every duty in the roulette (and you must have cleared every duty in the roulette at least once as well). Presumably this is to stop people from purposely going on low level jobs to avoid harder duties.
The only reward for Mentors is a small amount of tomes once per day and credit towards the related achievements.

Frankly I think it would be better for the system if there were no rewards so only people interested in helping would queue but that would hurt the overall goal of the roulette to fill queues that have been waiting awhile.

[Paladinleeds]

Frankly I think it would be better for the system if there were no rewards so only people interested in helping would queue but that would hurt the overall goal of the roulette to fill queues that have been waiting awhile.

Well, if you made an Extreme Primals Roulette, and a Full Party Raids Roulette, then you'd have all bases covered via roulettes. Then, you can safely get rid of the rewards from Mentor Roulette (or make it a stonkingly high amount of completed roulettes for the mount, say 5 trillion), and that would put off the glory seekers. Oh and any successful report against you from a player while the crown is on (that turned out to be less than expected behaviour from SE for mentors), and they can reset your progress back to zero. Say for example bailing from a duty without helping, SE could reset you to 0 for that (with some automated systems to augment it).

[Joe777]

You can't get exp from Mentor Roulette as you can only queue for it on max level jobs with high enough ilevel for every duty in the roulette (and you must have cleared every duty in the roulette at least once as well). Presumably this is to stop people from purposely going on low level jobs to avoid harder duties.
The only reward for Mentors is a small amount of tomes once per day and credit towards the related achievements.

Frankly I think it would be better for the system if there were no rewards so only people interested in helping would queue but that would hurt the overall goal of the roulette to fill queues that have been waiting awhile.

Yeah my bad, forgot it'd be pointless if Mentor Roulette offered xp since some duties are max level lol so in this case "xp" would be tomes.