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  1. #491
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    Greetings-Goodbye's Avatar
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    No Harm
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    BLM is fine and really fun. I do so much damage and no one has kicked me for playing BLM in high-end or hardcore content like expert dungeons and susano/lakshmi.
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  2. #492
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    AND have to have the party (healers) that help out, with an extra heals or shields
    No offense but I don't understand this, most aoes now come packed with nasty debuffs made exactly to snipe on us
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  3. #493
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greetings-Goodbye View Post
    BLM is fine and really fun. I do so much damage and no one has kicked me for playing BLM in high-end or hardcore content like expert dungeons and susano/lakshmi.
    I'm sorry but Susano/Lakshmi and dungeons are not considered hardcore content. That title is for Savage.
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  4. #494
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    Solyra Valaren
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    yes! have to underline this too..

    (and its more like your worth less than any other dps)

    maybe a general SS buff of equivalent 300-450 SS could fix Blm temporarily/fast (making all casts ca. 0.3-0.4 sec faster) .. till they adress and fix the real/complex Blm issues
    Except it wouldn't really, because Foul is on a 30s timer. The reason we still have convert is because it makes it reasonable to have foul in your first opener, and even then only barely. It would make the rotation feel a lot less fluid for a slight damage increase. It also doesn't change the fundamental issue that SE considers any kind of range as "utility", and doesn't consider buffs like hypercharge to be damage. At the end of the day, even SAM is falling behind in raid damage due to the second part, despite being the "best Single target damage" (which also isn't true). SMN is honestly reasonable with respect to drg/nin/mch/brd, but that only shows how far behind BLM/SAM and to an extent RDM are.
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  5. #495
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Ok serious talk about a possible magic weakness added to our rotation.

    I think it could work and honestly should be added by now to balance out with melee weaknesses also the more I think about it and the more it fits in the selfish dps style while also beign a rdps boost

    Doesn't fix all the problems, also still phisical dmg will rule because of no other support (and let's be honest LB too) but it would be a start
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  6. #496
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    Rhia Nara
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Ok serious talk about a possible magic weakness added to our rotation.

    I think it could work and honestly should be added by now to balance out with melee weaknesses also the more I think about it and the more it fits in the selfish dps style while also beign a rdps boost

    Doesn't fix all the problems, also still phisical dmg will rule because of no other support (and let's be honest LB too) but it would be a start
    I'd love to see that. Been saying that for a long time. Even Sam can boost its own dps, only fair if they give us a tool to do it too.
    Could be tied to Umbra Hearts, while they're up Blm gets a magic dmg buff.
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  7. #497
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    I'm thinking more of a proper debuff on the target like 45 secs that makes him taking 10% more magical dmg

    Let's say applied by B4 to give it some oomph I think we discussed about it in the past
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    Last edited by Remedi; 10-31-2017 at 09:52 AM.

  8. #498
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    45 seconds of 10% more magic damage? Seems kinda much
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  9. #499
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    Leo'n Heart
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Anyone who says BLM gameplay is "Only FireIV spam and refresh when you finish MP" obviously has no idea what they are talking about.
    Nope, that's why i've only good % lol. Before speaking, maybe check what other ppl do, like i did w/ you about SMN and RDM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Komaru_Tatoro View Post
    ^like he said. ppl have no idea how trying to keep enochian up for polyglot is a pain with the limited timer of af/ui
    As i said upper, check before talking. And tell me, why you have to refresh manually Enochian? Can't you use like transpose and after swiftcast/blizzard III/Blizzard IV and go dps again instead to loose Enochian (and polyglot counter)? Maybe i play in a different way than 90% Black mages, or 90% BLM do wrong stuff?
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  10. #500
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    Tarra Netsky
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Demoniun View Post
    As i said upper, check before talking. And tell me, why you have to refresh manually Enochian? Can't you use like transpose and after swiftcast/blizzard III/Blizzard IV and go dps again instead to loose Enochian (and polyglot counter)? Maybe i play in a different way than 90% Black mages, or 90% BLM do wrong stuff?
    ....what. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here.
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