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    Don't run away. Run to the side. Find the gaps. Melee range has a 5 yalm reach, which is larger than would be expected. The GCD is ~2.5s. Combined, that's quite a large distance that needs to be covered to prevent being able to use a weaponskill on every gcd. It's extremely rare in trash pulls for there to be anything large enough to warrant running out of range long enough to lose even part of a gcd. Toads are the only thing that really comes to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Don't run away. Run to the side. Find the gaps. Melee range has a 5 yalm reach, which is larger than would be expected. The GCD is ~2.5s. Combined, that's quite a large distance that needs to be covered to prevent being able to use a weaponskill on every gcd. It's extremely rare in trash pulls for there to be anything large enough to warrant running out of range long enough to lose even part of a gcd. Toads are the only thing that really comes to mind.
    Please explain to me which Is the side of a circle AOE.


    But more to the point. Please explain which is the side of a circle
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgil204 View Post
    Please explain to me which Is the side of a circle AOE.


    But more to the point. Please explain which is the side of a circle
    It's called strafing, look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    It's called strafing, look it up.

    it's called the radius of a circle. go back to 2nd grade geometry classes and find out how that relates to the centre of a circle. Then come back here ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgil204 View Post
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    Circles have a side, you're either in the circle or out of it. Stop being bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Circles have a side, you're either in the circle or out of it. Stop being bad.
    The problem is the plethora of circular AoEs and PBAoEs that are too big to be outside of and still be within melee range of the target. Not usually a big deal in and of itself, but if you're fighting a large pack of mobs that spam those abilities and you're a melee DPS, prepare to have a bad time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I will say, as a SAM, the big pulls in Skalla are kind of annoying due to the large mobs pushing the smaller ones further out. The way they are tanked sometimes makes it hard to effectively AoE. Doable, but annoying.
    Also this. Big mobs within packs are the bane of my Monk's existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    The problem is the plethora of circular AoEs and PBAoEs that are too big to be outside of and still be within melee range of the target. Not usually a big deal in and of itself, but if you're fighting a large pack of mobs that spam those abilities and you're a melee DPS, prepare to have a bad time.
    That's just a problem OP is going to have to deal with, the decision comes with being a melee DPS. If he really wants to solve the issue, he can just play a ranged DPS, but apparently you need to be good at geometry to deal good DPS, according to OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgil204 View Post
    Please explain to me which Is the side of a circle AOE.


    But more to the point. Please explain which is the side of a circle
    The target circles are very clearly marked with a forward marker that allows anyone to discern which is the front, back and sides. If you can't determine this and know to go to a more accessible side of the mob while dodging aoe, then I am seriously starting to question whether you've actually played this at launch or not. Many things you are mentioning have been common practice since at least 2.0 launch and yet they are new and foreign concepts to you. It's been like, 4 years. Why now?
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