Request: Hempen Garb - Racial Unlock

[AmiBeau]

OP here. I would like to chime in after reading all of this. I understand some people's opinions that some items should be more racially specific; however, for certain instances it should not be. An example where it would be appropriate was in Guild Wars 2; there was racial gear that was tailored to the lore and the culture of each unique race (i.e. Norn having antlered helms leather armor mixed with metal, over sized because the race is large in stature and muscular because of the harsh environment, and designs befitting of their "Druidic/One with nature culture."). Undergarments made of cloth don't fit such criteria in my opinion. A skilled tailor from any race would be able to replicate/tailor such articles of clothing; as opposed to a smith or tanner that is skilled with their people's methodologies that have been passed down and are guarded to fit their people's needs.

If it makes those with dissenting opinions tolerant; they could just as well make a new article of clothing that fits the other races under a different name, such as "Tailored Highlander Hempen Camise."

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Just to piggyback off the above. There is a stark difference between the Hempen sets and Artifact Gear. One is simply underwear no different than if I wore boxers or panties. The other has franchise roots tying to those particular aesthetics. Personally, I still wouldn't be opposed to it being opened up, however I appreciate that argument because it makes sense. Right now, we're arguing whether underwear identities your race, and it's silly.

[Magic-Mal]

My question: If the creators who put in the time and work to make the races small clothes different, why is their vision of the game visual aspect any less important than one who wants it changed? It was created this way for what ever reason, it took time to do so and was done on purpose, so why must it be changed?

You could say this argument about 1.0

[Frysia]

No they should stay just the way they are. The different races should have unique clothes that identifies them by race. Want to wear their clothes make an alt.

All races DO have unique clothes they can wear to identify by race. It's called their racial outfits, which btw, are also dyable. The Hempen outfits aren't locked by race to wear, they are just different on each race....some of them being ridiculously stupid that some wouldn't even consider wearing....unless you ERP (Looking at you Female Highlander and your kinky underwear....)

[LaylaTsarra]

The Hempen outfits aren't locked by race to wear, they are just different on each race....

I'm so happy you noticed and yes they should stay that way. They do in fact look different on each race and as such are identified with that particular race. If they all looked the same threads like this wouldn't exist.

[AmiBeau]

I'm so happy you noticed and yes they should stay that way. They do in fact look different on each race and as such are identified with that particular race. If they all looked the same threads like this wouldn't exist.

I'm starting to notice a pattern with your posts in particular. Instead of addressing issues, you seem to side-skirt them and implement your own biases instead of actually reading points being brought up and rationally explaining your points. It's equivalent to an individual sticking their fingers in their ears, muting the outside world and going, "La, la, la, la, la."

[LaylaTsarra]

**snip**

La la la la? Really. Being rude isn't going to make your point of view any more poignant. I've made my points very clear. Go back and read them. Sorry if my point of view doesn't agree with your desire to have them unlocked. Live with it.

[AmiBeau]

La la la la? Really. Being rude isn't going to make your point of view any more poignant. I've made my points very clear. Go back and read them. Sorry if my point of view doesn't agree with your desire to have them unlocked. Live with it.

You FEEL like the clothing should stay racially locked. That has been your only continuous point. The WHY is what I'm interested in. You're attempt at bringing lore into the fray was shot down rather quickly. So; outside of subjective opinion, why should the clothing be locked by race? I'm genuinely asking why (objectively) clothing should be locked by race? Instances to support your points, statistics, these are what interest me.

[Skivvy]

You FEEL like the clothing should stay racially locked. That has been your only continuous point. The WHY is what I'm interested in. You're attempt at bringing lore into the fray was shot down rather quickly. So; outside of subjective opinion, why should the clothing be locked by race? I'm genuinely asking why (objectively) clothing should be locked by race? Instances to support your points, statistics, these are what interest me.

No offense, but this is coming off as if you're attacking her opinion. We're all allowed to have our own thoughts when it comes to topics like these. Layla feels that they should remain locked as she feels they are linked to the individual races. I personally feel differently about the subject, but I won't rehash that as I've already shared my thoughts. What stats are you expecting anyone on these forums to throw at you?

Unlocking hempen boils down to whether or not SE wants to spend the time and effort on it. While I would be thrilled to see it happen, I'm not going to hold my breath on it just because an NPC was wearing the hempen of another race. NPCs are known to break gear rules, and this could just be the most recent case of it.

[Galaktica]

You could say this argument about 1.0

Except on one hand you had a game that was an absolute mess on a technical level and financially, impossible to sustain and on the other hand, you have a couple of of pairs of digital underwear. If they didn't alter the first, none of us would even be here discussing the latter. Soooo they're kinda not even remotely the same thing

And, for the record, I would just like to say I too would be in favor of this change. However, I can't stand how people just sorta plug their ears to the whole unique clothing argument. Skivvy pretty much stole the words right out of my mouth and I really wish people who want the sets unlocked would chill out. It's really not that serious at the end of day and the level of anger makes us all look bad lol.