Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

[Niraves]

I guess in the long run it won't really affect me anyway. If SE does decide to implement this stupid change, I'll just relinquish my alts house and pick it up on my second account. Throws out a little over 3 million gil but I suppose I'll do what I have to do. I'm not giving up one of my houses so it can sit ignored by whatever random person thinks they deserve it more than I do.

Suppose I should get back to work on that FC on my second account too, just in case.

[Almagnus1]

Yes you would because the next complaint would be my neighbor john doe quit the game a year ago yet he still is holding up that house next to me cause theres no demo timer.there has to be some timer for people who leave the game and have houses

So what about changing the demo timer on the personal house so it is invoked if the sub lapse, but removed when the sub goes active again?

FC demo timers should remain unchanged, tho.

[Siniztor]

So what about changing the demo timer on the personal house so it is invoked if the sub lapse, but removed when the sub goes active again?

FC demo timers should remain unchanged, tho.

This might work but id say at lest have a 30 grace period.then give another 30 days and the house gets demoed that would raise the demo timer to 60 days, but once the 30 day grace period ends a email is sent to you giving you 30 days to renew.

[Jas710]

What the hell is the point of the demo timers if they always suspend it any time there is a natural disaster somewhere in the world (which is almost always)?

The current housing system is just super-dumb any way you look at it. Yoshi should be /slapped.

[Keridwyn]

What the hell is the point of the demo timers if they always suspend it any time there is a natural disaster somewhere in the world (which is almost always)?

The current housing system is just super-dumb any way you look at it. Yoshi should be /slapped.

The point of the demo timer is to demolish the houses of those that have decided to no longer play the game for a period of 45 days so that the plots may be repurchased. The timer has been paused exactly twice, once for the Japanese servers and once for the North American servers. It is not paused every time there is a natural disaster somewhere, only when natural disasters reach a certain magnitude or multiple hit the same region(s) at once to cause a greater issue.

As for the housing system being 'super-dumb' not really. The idea of housing zones is one that has been used in other games to great effect, the problem is in how SE chose to implement their version of it.

[Siniztor]

The point of the demo timer is to demolish the houses of those that have decided to no longer play the game for a period of 45 days so that the plots may be repurchased..

I really thik this should be tied to your sub not if you go in your house for people who go on vacation or there pc melts down. if there paying there sub there still active

[Keridwyn]

I really thik this should be tied to your sub not if you go in your house for people who go on vacation or there pc melts down. if there paying there sub there still active

As do I.

The timer as it stands is fine for FCs.

[Calteru]

The problem I see with tying subscription time to the demo timer is that it'd be a great way to ensure that house flipping is still a thing. As it stands, a flipper has to build a house on the plot and enter it at least once every 45 days. If they didn't have to do that, it's simply a matter of jacking up the price every month and continuing to hold onto prime real estate until a whale comes along and buys it.

There was a plot for sale for yen on Chocobo not too long ago. 60,000 yen. That's a little over $500 USD. A flipper has quite some time to make a profit if their demo timer is tied to their subscription. At least with the current setup, they've got to maintain some kind of house and do a little work. (Maybe they should have to do more?)

[Scardon]

Do both. Just ADD if they aren't subscribed it also gets demo'd.

Its more than reasonable that a person should be paying their sub to keep a house since on multiple occasions the developers have said its an issue of cost, resources and server space. So why should someone be able to take up a limited resource on the servers when they aren't even helping to keep them up?

Between the owner not paying a sub, the house existing creating a load and the occupied lot not allowing a paying customer to get a house the whole thing seems like an unacceptable loss to me.
House isn't used for 45 days: demo'd
House owner doesn't have a subscription for 14(?) days: demo'd

[Almagnus1]

Do both. Just ADD if they aren't subscribed it also gets demo'd.

Its more than reasonable that a person should be paying their sub to keep a house since on multiple occasions the developers have said its an issue of cost, resources and server space. So why should someone be able to take up a limited resource on the servers when they aren't even helping to keep them up?

Between the owner not paying a sub, the house existing creating a load and the occupied lot not allowing a paying customer to get a house the whole thing seems like an unacceptable loss to me.
House isn't used for 45 days: demo'd
House owner doesn't have a subscription for 14(?) days: demo'd

IMO, the altered demo timer only really makes sense if the personal house is restricted to just one personal house per server.

Yes, someone could still house flip, but by reducing their capacity on homes from 16 down to 9, it puts us in a much better place to push for FC changes to address the shell FC housing issues. IMO, people should be restricted to just a personal and an FC house (for the FC their part of) as rolling multiple characters in FFXIV generally doesn't make a lot of sense (outside of playing through the MSQ again or seeing different starting cities that is).