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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    [SIZE="6"]And honestly I wouldn't be the least bit sympathetic for people having to pick between their plots ^^;[/SIZE]

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    See your on blamug where its a high pop server. your not in the other seat like me.who paid $18 to transfer not to go your server like most paid transfers but to a low pop server cause housing was my #1 priority.

    I have owned my 3 houses for a year . my server did not have any other housing issue beside the one all servers have not enough larges..we had plenty of empty houses plots till SE decided they had made enough money off people transferring into your server balmug, once they totaly locked your server and offered free transfers is when low pop servers got housing issuses.. The night before transfer me and few fc mates counted empty plots 218, within 48 hours of transfers gone (probly less but i took the day off of transfers due to real life).

    Like ive said low pop servers at lest mine didn't have housing issues till people took free rides off high pop servers..So now people want me to give up houses i paid to transfer to get a year ago for people who took free rides, cause lets face it new subs aren't the issuse
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    Also, using the "my server was low pop" excuse is utter trash.

    That's like saying that the road in front of your house doesn't have a lot of traffic so you play basketball in the street. And then throwing a btch-fit, because the cars (the road was designed for) want to use the road. Use your head. Don't be stupid. You took advantage of a loop-hole. You had a good run. LET IT GO. Don't hold onto your terribly short-sighted ideals.

    You took advantage of a low-turn, and you enjoyed it. Now it's over. Change is coming. The more you fight it out of selfish desire the more of a dirt-bag you'll look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    Like ive said low pop servers at lest mine didn't have housing issues till people took free rides off high pop servers..So now people want me to give up houses i paid to transfer to get a year ago for people who took free rides, cause lets face it new subs aren't the issuse
    Of all the things you keep repeating this is the most terrible of them all. You are actually trying to delegitimise players who used a free transfer to get a house simply because you paid to transfer. Paying to transfer does NOT give you more right to anything than anyone else. This is not how this game works. You have a right to a house because you got it first, not because you didn't get a free ride.

    No one could give a damn how many real moneys you paid to be on a certain server. What they care about is that you own more homes than what is obviously intended. And the more you harp on about your transfer fee, you appear less and less deserving of even having one house. Never mind three. Quite frankly you sound like an elitist who thinks their irl wallet somehow gives them extra rights in a game. Go play a F2P pay-to-win game if that's what you think should give you extra perks in a mmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post

    No one could give a damn how many real moneys you paid to be on a certain server. What they care about is that you own more homes than what is obviously intended. And the more you harp on about your transfer fee, you appear less and less deserving of even having one house. Never mind three. Quite frankly you sound like an elitist who thinks their irl wallet somehow gives them extra rights in a game. Go play a F2P pay-to-win game if that's what you think should give you extra perks in a mmo.
    As i just stated it was intented... Square-Enix did intend for people to own multi house. Since they sell a 2nd subscirption where you can have 8 characters. But there is no way for you to connect your characters, there is no shared banking like most games there is no way for you to use your house on multi characters.. So since you can buy multi houses buy following the rules on different characters it was intended.

    and your opinion of me dosen't realy matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    and your opinion of me dosen't realy matter , see i don't resort to name calling sorry
    You repeatedly keep saying "I PAID TO TRANSFER UNLIKE OTHERS WHO GOT A FREE RIDE SO I DESERVE ALL MY HOUSES!" You constantly use your irl extra payments as a form of elevating yourself above other players. That is worse than name calling because you constantly try to prove you should get special treatment because of more irl money. You have repeatedly put down players who used free transfers by consistently saying their free ride makes them less deserving of a house. It's classic elitism. That insult I threw at you is well earned.

    Several times when you have been cornered with multiple reasons that show that players were not intended to have several homes you fall back on this. It's akin to throwing a tantrum. I repeat; you do not have more right to anything because you paid to transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You repeatedly keep saying "I PAID TO TRANSFER UNLIKE OTHERS WHO GOT A FREE RIDE SO I DESERVE ALL MY HOUSES!" You constantly use your irl extra payments as a form of elevating yourself above other players. That is worse than name calling because you constantly try to prove you should get special treatment because of more irl money. You have repeatedly put down players who used free transfers by consistently saying their free ride makes them less deserving of a house. It's classic elitism. That insult I threw at you is well earned.

    Several times when you have been cornered with multiple reasons that show that players were not intended to have several homes you fall back on this. It's akin to throwing a tantrum. I repeat; you do not have more right to anything because you paid to transfer.
    i never once ask for more rights for anything... All ive said is people who broke o rules shouldn't be punish.. weither you think the rules or fair or not the rules state you can buy more then one.. I broke no rules..i've never flipped a house or a fc. ive never bought gil.. i earned my money crafting and followed the rules leveling up and leveling my gc..not your rules or what you think the rules should be but the rules SE put in front of me. its not my fault your server dosen't have enough houses or you didn't go to a server before the free transfers when 100's of homes were empty..

    Greed is taking away from some one who has something you want just cause you didn't get it..theres been years of chances for people to transfer to get homes that were open
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    the greedy players would not cause too much trouble in the grand scheme of things. Unfortunately, here we are.
    The grand scheme of things is that there's simply not enough houses even with people who have multiple houses. There's not enough. I'd hardly even call it a 'dent' if they put a hard limit on how many an account could own. The wards need to be done away with and everyone needs their own instanced homes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You constantly use your irl extra payments as a form of elevating yourself above other players.
    Don't forget that people with more than 1 char per server literally do pay more to play than people with 1 char per server. Their subscription is priced higher already. No server moving necessary, they already pay more than others do just to access alts.


    Why SHOULDN'T each individual character have their own house? If it's something they advertise on their website to draw in new players, why shouldn't each and every character (alt or not) have their own home? SE made this artificial scarcity, so don't get mad at the players or bash players for it. Bash SE for it. Using all these IRL analogies like water bottles for employees? What? Housing isn't something nice they decided to 'give' to us for fun, it's a faucet of the game that THOUSANDS can't enjoy. Whether or not they apply a limit, they already set hurdles in place. This is an internet house in a game we all pay to play, we should all have an internet house. All of us. New players, veteran players, alts, we should all have access to housing. They make so much money off of our subs and the cash shop there's just no reason for the shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    Why SHOULDN'T each individual character have their own house?
    Well if you look a few posts before you'll see Yoshi himself talked about a change to the system to discourage this.

    Yes it would be nice if we could have a home for every character but there isn't even enough for every player. As long as we have extremely limited supply of housing, then the amount of houses a player can have in a single server should also be limited to reflect this.

    Don't get me wrong. I hate this system. I despise it so much and the lack of foresight that went into it is so amazingly terrible it bounces between being hilarious and downright frustrating. But despite being proven several times for many years that it just isn't working, SE seem determined to hang to it anyway. So the most realistic improvements we can hope for are adjustments to it. Not something as ideal as enough housing to the point of excess for everyone.

    Especially considering that we know we will be getting more wards in 4.2. No way is there going to be something huge and amazing to replace the ward system at that point because there simply isn't enough time, unless it's been in the works for a very long time and somehow zero about it got leaked.

    Hoping for the best, but expecting not much of anything : /

    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    Don't forget that people with more than 1 char per server literally do pay more to play than people with 1 char per server. Their subscription is priced higher already. No server moving necessary, they already pay more than others do just to access alts.
    I have paid the sub to allow for alts without pause for over two years and I don't consider myself to have anymore rights to anything than a sprout paying for just one character per server. Certainly not extra houses when there are so few already. The only veteran rewards should be those that SE hand out themselves into our mail boxes.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 10-21-2017 at 11:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    stuff
    I don't care how long you have had your houses.
    I don't care how much you paid to transfer or when you transferred.
    Dead server, lively server, in-between server - I don't think you need 3 houses on one server. If you had 3 houses on 3 different servers I miiiight have been more sympathetic, but all on one? Nah.

    Retroactively making 1fc/1personal would benefit more people than it would harm. imo everyone who is sitting on multiple should be given a time to pick their favorite and be reimbursed for the others. Again, it would not be the miracle fix, but it would help the community nonetheless.
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