Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

[Siniztor]

Healers don't break rules if they don't dps but they risk getting kicked if they don't do it. You can queue for lvl 70 content as a class instead of a job, but you normally would get kicked by a group if you do.

Just because you're able to do something doesn't mean you should, or that you can expect everyone to think it's fair.

Your arguing in game player kicks against people breaking The TOS the DEVS have set... Ok lets break that down shall we. As you said healers don't break any rules not dpsing yet run the risk of getting voke to kicked...those who vote to kick healers for that are guess what Breaking the rules. There is no reason to kick for that. the reasons listed to kick are 1=AFK 2-Offline 3-Harassment 4-Cheating. a healer not dps'ing or not going as a job instead of a class is doing none of them. but the people who kick those people are faslely kicking ,lieing as to why they kicked them because in there personal opinion they don't like there game play...

See the healers not dps'ing and the people who don't do job classes have broke no rules just as the people with multi houses are not breaking the rules.. But the people kicking are lieing as to why there kicking people the Ai to kick has no way to know that so there kicked.

Like i said i have followed SE rules the game makers rules and broke none..your rules don't matter its not your game so just cause you don't like a rule dosn't mean i broke it or cheated.. thats your opinion of the rules.. so your argument breaks down to do what i want or ill break the rules to get what i want

[Almagnus1]

I've actually been looking in to LotRO, and if FFXIV wants to have parity with how many houses LotRO has active, FFXIV needs to have about 20 wards in each neighborhood, as they are averaging about 30-40 neighborhoods (30 house wards) in most of the neighborhoods, with one up around 60 - and each neighborhood only has 30 houses (with the exception of the premium one which is RMT only at 24 houses per neighborhood), with 4 houses in each neighborhood as kinship [FC] houses. The absolute maximum is around 4 * 30 * 256 + 24 * 256 = 36864. LotRO will probably never see that many houses open on a single server, truth be told.

However, bringing that many wards onto the market without doing anything about the land baron is only going to be in the land baron's favor because they can continue to snatch up houses, especially if they are flipping them for over 10 times their cost. That's also ignoring the server impact of bringing online that many wards.

That's also why I want to address account housing capacity, as we need to be able to stretch the housing to cover the most players - which means having players release their extra houses or having SE force the release.

The wards are usually pretty empty anyway, so I don't see why we can't have instanced housing.

Perhaps that's because the wards have several people that own multiple plots of land, which is driving down how many players are actually in the ward....

Your arguing in game player kicks against people breaking The TOS the DEVS have set... Ok lets break that down shall we. As you said healers don't break any rules not dpsing yet run the risk of getting voke to kicked...those who vote to kick healers for that are guess what Breaking the rules. There is no reason to kick for that. the reasons listed to kick are 1=AFK 2-Offline 3-Harassment 4-Cheating. a healer not dps'ing or not going as a job instead of a class is doing none of them. but the people who kick those people are faslely kicking ,lieing as to why they kicked them because in there personal opinion they don't like there game play...

See the healers not dps'ing and the people who don't do job classes have broke no rules just as the people with multi houses are not breaking the rules.. But the people kicking are lieing as to why there kicking people the Ai to kick has no way to know that so there kicked.

Try that discussion in the healer forums, and let us know how it goes mmmkay?

As i said before im fine if they wanna change the rules now as they add more hosuing... im not fine with taking things away from people who did nothing wrong just like anyone else who pays there sub and follows the rules you shouldn't be punished period... like others have said grandfather us in and make it so we cant transfer ..

If the point of changing the rules is to free up houses and prevent players from taking more houses than what SE intended, isn't the rules change pointless unless a forced release also happens?

Because SE let the housing issue fester, there is not going to be a change to the housing system that isn't going to screw over some group or another.

As for housee flippers many many people have said just put a timer on when the pot goes back up for sale after its been relinquished a random 24-72 house timer or how ever long that way the seller can not quantee the buyer the plot

Most everyone agrees with that as well, as there are multiple things (including an invisible random timeout and increased capacity) that are needed to fully resolve most of the housing issues.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

those who vote to kick healers for that are guess what Breaking the rules.

Just going to touch on this. No, actually, they are not. People have posted GMs specifically citing playstyle, which is a nebulous term that can apply to nearly everything. In regards to housing, Square's own ToS highlights rules are subject to change on a whim.

11.8 Changes to this User Agreement. Square Enix reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to change, modify, add to, supplement or delete any of the terms and conditions of this User Agreement or the way that the Game operates at any time. Square Enix will notify you of such changes in one of the following ways at its sole discretion: through a patch, email, postal mail, website posting, pop-up screen or in-game notice. If you do not agree to any such change or modification, you may terminate this User Agreement by uninstalling the Licensed Software and destroying your copy(ies). Your continued use of the Game following any revision to this User Agreement will demonstrate your full acceptance of any and all such changes.

It goes without saying the devs didn't envision players owning multiple personal houses on a single account or creating dummy FCs to flip. In fact, they've attempted to ban the latter. Future changes to housing will be solely based on attempting to fulfill a demand they have failed to accomplish. Therefore, it makes little sense to Grandfather those who have taken advantage of their, admittedly, poorly designed system.

Is it fair? Perhaps not. But weighing the pros and cons, one upset person who lost four out of five houses isn't as much of a concern as four upset players who got nothing simply due to the former's greed.

You have stated this many times. Do you have actual numbers to back up your claims?
I don´t believe there are that many players who have multiple houses.

You would be surprised. I know players who own entire wards on Balmung, Sarga and Mateus. Back in 3.3, a FC bought up multiple houses for the sole purpose of selling them at enormous mark ups. I also know others who aren't quite as blatant but do have 3-5 houses between alts and dummy FCs. Regardless, if it turns out to be fewer than expected, then fewer will be upset with the change. On the other hand, if wards suddenly open up, you'll have far more happier players than those upset because they can't flip a small for 25M. It's in Square's best interest to appease the majority.