Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

[Keridwyn]

Long and short of it is, taking houses from players actively using them is not the same thing as demoing a house the player hasn't entered for 45+ days. If you aren't using the house you don't deserve it, same thing for 90% of the people who snatched up all the new plots in Shirogane and have done absolutely nothing with them since.

Again, I'd rather they solve the issue instead of taking away people's alt houses and I keep suggesting multiple other options that they could (but likely won't) do. Also nobody in this game, regardless of any statistic you choose to apply, deserves a house. We like them, we want them, but if we deserved them they'd be an in-game reward for something.

I don't care if you own one house, two houses, or the full sixteen per server possible, if that's what you love in this game then kudos to you for following that passion. The problem is there's a shortage and just like with any shortage, once it gets too bad you end up with rationing. In this case it could be fixed, it could be avoided, but if the demo timer is any indication it will neither be fixed or avoided. This isn't our fault as players, it's SE's fault for ignoring the issue this long.

[Almagnus1]

require players to have a minimum of 50% of the item cap inside the house and outside in the yard

Absolutely not.

I'm a minimalist with design and decoration, and this would screw over my design sensibilities because (IMO) you don't need to have the house anywhere near cap to have it look good. This rule is completely asinine.

Just because you're a packrat, doesn't mean you should make everyone else a packrat or else.

[Niraves]

Absolutely not.

I'm a minimalist with design and decoration, and this would screw over my design sensibilities because (IMO) you don't need to have the house anywhere near cap to have it look good. This rule is completely asinine.

Just because you're a packrat, doesn't mean you should make everyone else a packrat or else.

I wasn't being serious, obviously. I don't think its reasonable to expect people to spend every minute of every day logged into their house. I don't care how people decorate their houses either, as long as they actually do SOMETHING with them. I'm just a little irritated with all these people demanding houses be taken away from alts and then wandering through my ward in Shirogane and seeing every other house totally empty.

Taking away alt houses isn't going to fix housing, its not even going to make a dent in the issue. I own one house on my main and one house on my alt, I use both daily. Why should I lose a house so someone who probably will ignore it 28 days a month can have it? I didn't violate any terms of service to get my second house. Why should I be punished?

Taking houses away from people isn't the answer, and people need to stop acting like its going to make any difference except to piss off players that put in the time and effort to get a second house.

I do honestly think the demo timer should be shorter than it currently is. I think 14 days would be reasonable. If you want to go on a vacation, or take a break from the game or whatever it may be, thats on you. You can either log in to keep your house, or don't. If you don't, it obviously wasn't that important to you. (And for the record, I don't think the occasionally demo relinquished house makes any real difference in the housing situation either, but we work with what we have.)

What we really need are dynamic wards or instanced houses. SE can keep trying to throw band-aids on this, but its like trying to stop an avalanche with a paper plate.

[Penthea]

Taking away alt houses isn't going to fix housing, its not even going to make a dent in the issue.

Yea people said the same thing about demolition, and well almost everyone I know who has a house or fc house got it because of demolition.

In an ideal world everyone can have several houses if they like. But SE seem determined to keep the ward system, which means there will always be limited houses. In a system in which there is limited supply then the amount of houses a player can own should also be limited.

[Almagnus1]

Could you please post where ya got that from??? Im intested in reading the whole thing..Cause all i've seen if him say they didn't add enough plots and there loooking for feedback on how to add n sell them

Maybe you should stop trolling and RTF thread.

Taking away alt houses isn't going to fix housing, its not even going to make a dent in the issue. I own one house on my main and one house on my alt, I use both daily. Why should I lose a house so someone who probably will ignore it 28 days a month can have it? I didn't violate any terms of service to get my second house. Why should I be punished?

Been over this before many times, but you're getting punished because of the land barons absorbing waaaay to many houses. Exact same thing happens when any group of players abuses part of the system.

Taking houses away from people isn't the answer, and people need to stop acting like its going to make any difference except to piss off players that put in the time and effort to get a second house.

There's no mathematical argument you can make where the current multi-house owners come out ahead. If SE does go through with this, then you get screwed, but at least as many (and probably more) are going to be happy because they finally get a house.

I do honestly think the demo timer should be shorter than it currently is. I think 14 days would be reasonable. If you want to go on a vacation, or take a break from the game or whatever it may be, thats on you. You can either log in to keep your house, or don't. If you don't, it obviously wasn't that important to you. (And for the record, I don't think the occasionally demo relinquished house makes any real difference in the housing situation either, but we work with what we have.)

14 days is still too short though. This policy is fine as is IMO.

What we really need are dynamic wards or instanced houses. SE can keep trying to throw band-aids on this, but its like trying to stop an avalanche with a paper plate.

I would suspect that the dynamic wards we'd need would be upwards of 100 wards in each neighborhood if ownership restrictions aren't put in place. At some point it just becomes too much load for SE to handle, so they'd have to cap the neighborhoods somehow.

[Gnorok]

Been over this before many times, but you're getting punished because of the land barons absorbing waaaay to many houses. Exact same thing happens when any group of players abuses part of the system.

You have stated this many times. Do you have actual numbers to back up your claims?
I don´t believe there are that many players who have multiple houses.

[Penthea]

14 days is still too short though. This policy is fine as is IMO.

Good god 45 days is already too short, never mind 14. Having the demo timer as only two weeks will literally punish people for going on holiday. Heaven forbid you have a life outside of the game.

[Garten]

Hi, i see that often in theese threads people use the term "grandfather/grandfathering", can someone explain me what does it means?

thanks xD

[Siniztor]

Hi, i see that often in theese threads people use the term "grandfather/grandfathering", can someone explain me what does it means?

thanks xD

"A grandfather clause (or grandfather policy) is a provision in which an old rule continues to apply to some existing situations while a new rule will apply to all future cases. Those exempt from the new rule are said to have grandfather rights or acquired rights, or to have been grandfathered in."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause


Bascily in this case as it stands right now as long as you get a alt to 50 and gc. level to 2 leiu and you have the gil alts can by a house to making it so you can have multi houses and your not breaking any rules. people wanna change that rule to the most common 1 fc 1 personal house per account. the grandfather rule would not take houses away from people who didn't break any rules getting there houses now. but making it so in the furture no one can buy more then 1 personal or fc per account. Others wanna strip the houses from people who broke no rules in getting there houses . As i've stated many times changing the rule is fine with me but taking away from people who broke no rules is wrong. Grandfather them in

[Almagnus1]

people wanna change that rule to the most common 1 fc 1 personal house per account. the grandfather rule would not take houses away from people who didn't break any rules getting there houses now. but making it so in the furture no one can buy more then 1 personal or fc per account. Others wanna strip the houses from people who broke no rules in getting there houses . As i've stated many times changing the rule is fine with me but taking away from people who broke no rules is wrong. Grandfather them in

If the objective is to free up houses because we have such a severe shortage that we need rationing (and we will probably continue to have said shortage until housing capacity quadruples), how is grandfathering people into the new system addressing the housing shortage?