Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

[Almagnus1]

But even if they were to restrict personal houses to 1 per service account/per server, it would just drive people who want multiple houses to making single character FCs instead which are not so easy to restrict.

Yet that change would reduce maximum capacity from 16 houses per account per server down to 9 houses per account per server. That capacity adjustment is what I'm after.

The only real solution here seems to be that we need considerably more wards so that there is more supply than demand.

That's part of the solution, but without adjusting the capacity side of things, then all SE is going to do is give houses to the land barons.

The point of this thread is to effect changes that will help prevent another Shirogane, where people are like "YAY! NEW NEIGHBORHOOD!", and then find out the entire thing is gone within half an hour, and any new houses that entered the market are gone in about as much time.

[Abelfei]

Yet that change would reduce maximum capacity from 16 houses per account per server down to 9 houses per account per server. That capacity adjustment is what I'm after.



That's part of the solution, but without adjusting the capacity side of things, then all SE is going to do is give houses to the land barons.

The point of this thread is to effect changes that will help prevent another Shirogane, where people are like "YAY! NEW NEIGHBORHOOD!", and then find out the entire thing is gone within half an hour, and any new houses that entered the market are gone in about as much time.

Prevent another Shirogane? What was bad about it? Youre only mad cause you didnt get one. The process is fine, the fact is FFXIV is popular, and so is housing. Earn it, get lucky, but dont complain.

[Almagnus1]

Prevent another Shirogane? What was bad about it? Youre only mad cause you didnt get one. The process is fine, the fact is FFXIV is popular, and so is housing. Earn it, get lucky, but dont complain.

Please visit https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVhousingmarket/ and count the number of Shirogane land plots up for sale, which is now up to 7 on the front page at the time of writing.

That's seven players (and/or FCs) that didn't get a house because the house flippers decided their profit was more important than someone getting a property in the new neighborhood.

There is nothing right about that.

[Siniztor]

Please visit https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVhousingmarket/ and count the number of Shirogane land plots up for sale, which is now up to 7 on the front page at the time of writing.

That's seven players (and/or FCs) that didn't get a house because the house flippers decided their profit was more important than someone getting a property in the new neighborhood.

There is nothing right about that.

I hate house flippers just as much as the people who buy from them..but really your argument that shirogane went bad seems petty like he said you didnt get a house you mad, you argue there is 7 houses for sale hmm lets try math 720 houses in Shirogane 66 servers (counted off the wikki)... 720 x 66 = 47,520 houses were released..out of that 7 are forsale. 7 out of 47,520

Dosent seem the problem is mass buying or mass selling its shortage of houses period..you keep bringing up people owning 16 houses. ive only heard of the mathus people im sure there might be 1 or two more who own whole wards. but multi house owners seem to own 2-3 houses so taken them is only gonna free up maybe 100 if you lucky on a server thats not a fix or help lol we need 50-100 more wards if they wanna keep housing in wards or instance them

Dont miss the bold type i think anyone who sells a house for profit or buys a house from a flipper should be banned permently..im just saying the problem with shir realse wasnt fippers it was the lack of the new houseing ward period

[Abelfei]

They earned the right to buy them, if you didn't get one, it's because you were too slow or couldn't compete with their gil. Why should you get a house for putting in less work and time then people that got them? Nothing is stopping you from buying and flipping either. And no, I did not get a house at Shirogane and no I do not flip houses. I reiterate, if housing is so important to you, find a way to get competitive with people who obviously want them more than you do. Bottom line is, in order to get a house, you have to be rich, timely, smart, crafty, saavy etc. You're not just going to get handed one.

[Penthea]

They earned the right to buy them, if you didn't get one, it's because you were too slow or couldn't compete with their gil. Why should you get a house for putting in less work and time then people that got them?

Less work? Do you not know loads of people didn't get houses because of server queues, lobby errors, the patch not downloading and the launcher having errors? God it's so patronising when people say "you obviously didn't work hard enough" when several issues outside of a player's power affect their chances to even log in.

Nothing is stopping you from buying and flipping either.

Not even the fact that it's against the terms of use and if you're caught you could get banned or even lose your account?

Bottom line is, in order to get a house, you have to be rich, timely, smart, crafty, saavy etc.

Yes because having all those traits magically makes lobby, server and launcher errors disappear.

[Abelfei]

We all were subject to the same lobby, servers, and login process. I fail to seem where your logging in is worse than anyone elses? next you're going to say that everyone's internet speed should be governed whenever houses get released, or that anyone who installed an SSD hard drive should be banned from logging in? Makes no sense. Buying a house from a friend is not against TOS, and good luck with that argument, look at any servers Party Finder.

Your login issues were no exclusive to just you, it was everyone. Not a good argument at all. Thats like saying your PC or PS4 wasnt as good as the players who got Shiro houses.

[Abelfei]

And yes, you did put in less work than someone who in fact got a house, cause guess what, they actually got one, which means they beat you.

[Penthea]

We all were subject to the same lobby, servers, and login process.

Wrong. Some people in my fc had no errors, some had only one, others had several.

Really you're woefully uneducated about any of this.

[Almagnus1]

Why should you get a house for putting in less work and time then people that got them?

So then, is someone that took a day off from work just to get into Shirogane and snag a house, only to be screwed over by the login issues lazy?

Or is this really just a strawman that attempts to justify a weak position?

Nothing is stopping you from buying and flipping either.

House flipping is part of the problem, and (IMO) all parties involved with a flip should be perma banned.