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    Wanna prevent house flipping by the land barons of the game? Simple: make it so you can only relinquish one house OR downgrade one house every 45 days. Account wide. People with multiple houses will have auto demolish timers of every house but the last one they entered exposed on the ward select window, for everyone to see. Except the owners, which have to watch their emails as previously expected.
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    Happiness is manditory.
    Not being happy is treason.
    Treason is punishable by death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanscott View Post
    Wanna prevent house flipping by the land barons of the game? Simple: make it so you can only relinquish one house OR downgrade one house every 45 days. Account wide. People with multiple houses will have auto demolish timers of every house but the last one they entered exposed on the ward select window, for everyone to see. Except the owners, which have to watch their emails as previously expected.
    That won't prevent it. Players who have waited several years for a house will have little issue waiting 45 days. At most it will slow down house flipping. It certainly won't eliminate it. It probably would result in 45 day long auctions for houses and on the last day the highest bidder wins.
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    Land Baron's how about giving them the title of " SLUM LORDS" !
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    People will be exceptionally disappointed at how many houses this doesn't free up.

    I'm not against the one and one idea, per se; but it's not a cure-all, just a bandaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    People will be exceptionally disappointed at how many houses this doesn't free up.

    I'm not against the one and one idea, per se; but it's not a cure-all, just a bandaid.
    A bandaid fix like this would still be better than nothing at all. An actual fix would definitely be preferable though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    People will be exceptionally disappointed at how many houses this doesn't free up.

    I'm not against the one and one idea, per se; but it's not a cure-all, just a bandaid.
    I wouldn't call this a bandaid, but part of the larger set of changes that need to go live to actually solve the problem.

    That said, this is the one part of a more comprehensive solution that almost everyone can agree upon, which is why I believe this restriction to be worth pushing first. Getting this in place would set the precedent for other more forceful changes that would need to happen, as housing isn't something that SE needs to approach as gently as possible because a lot of people (especially for the couple that own a ward) probably have a lot of emotional investment tied up in their houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    One aspect of this housing issue we can all agree on is that SE needs to restrict personal houses to only one per server.
    No stop right there you do not speak for me or know what i agree with and in this case you are wrong i don't not agree with this. I payed $18 over a year ago to move to a low pop server to own housing for over a year 200-400 plot sat empty..yes i own 3 houses and have for a year. i play my 3 alts every week they all have differant taste.
    Every person who is crying they want a house could of had a house easy prior to free transfer by paying to move to a low pop server but they chose friends or server over housing i paid and picked housing. The whole ward thing on mathus guess what no one cared till free transfer there was still plenty of free lots there.. My server had 218 open plots at rock bottom prices the day of free transfers.

    I pay extra for 8 chars. my 8 chars should have all the rights the person paying for 1 char. If they wanna change the rules now fine so be it. but you cant take away the houses people worked hard for who broke no rules that is not fair just because people took a free ride and didnt get a house...The problem isnt the small handfull that own more then one house most of us on low pop servers Its thers only 2880 houses on all worlds where the population is 6k+ not counting free companys..

    Do you 100% honestly think its right to take way from people who broke no rules just to give to people in my case who took a free ride to my server?? Everyone who wanted a house on my server has one hell smalls were 1.5 mil lol med 8 mil.

    Bewared if they start taking rights away from what you pay extra for it wont stop here...Next will be retainers John doe is crashing the market so lets make it so only the 2 retainers thru storys can sell items

    Bottom line they need more wards and a ton of them other games do it and they sure have the money, figure out there monthly income from how many subs they say they have and lets just use the base subcription price..thats a ton of money a month
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 10-17-2017 at 09:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    No stop right there you do not speak for me or know what i agree with and in this case you are wrong i don't not agree with this. I payed $18 over a year ago to move to a low pop server to own housing for over a year 200-400 plot sat empty..yes i own 3 houses and play my 3 alts every week they all have differant taste.

    Every person who is crying they want a house could of had a house easy prior to free transfer by paying to move to a low pop server but they chose friends or server over housing i paid and picked housing. The whole ward thing on mathus guess what no one cared till free transfer there was still plenty of free lots there.. My server had 218 open plots at rock bottom prices the day of free transfers
    Ideally no one should have to pay real money to get access to a house other than paying their sub to play the game. Furthermore most players come to the game not knowing about the specifics about housing, and by the time they know enough they have already invested loads of time in their character and their social circle. The fact that housing is often so cut-throat that players have to choose between their friends and a house just speaks volumes as to how incredibly flawed the system is.

    I could understand your argument if you had a personal house and a fc house on one character, I myself am in this position. But you also possess houses on alts. This game is literally designed for you to be able to do everything on one character, and does literally nothing to encourage playing alts. You can't even mail your alts. You can even choose a sub payment for only one character per server. Yes you paid for the houses but you having them on alts is you taking advantage of an oversight, not an intended feature of the housing system.

    You can argue about it until your face is blue, but the fact remains that everyone knows SE have designed the game so that you can do everything on one character, so logically all your housing should be on one character too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You can argue about it until your face is blue, but the fact remains that everyone knows SE have designed the game so that you can do everything on one character, so logically all your housing should be on one character too.
    if there was only 1 sub plan that be fine but there is 2 and now your saying sub plan B dose not have the same rights as sub plan A. Sub plan A has 1 char you make it you have all the rights, Sub plan B you can make 8 chars but only 1 can own a house the rest have to be tied to it. My alts maybe dont want nothing to do with my main or my circle of friends from my main maybe its a ghost who only plays with certain people... It comes down to we pay extra money for more chars who all should have the same rights as the person who pays for 1..


    Like i said housing up to free transfer. Housing came down to making a chose. if you wanted it pay and move to a low pop server or stay with your friends..i know many people who payed to get in balmug then took free transfers to mathus just to scream n cry no houses lol when they left a server the first time that had houses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    if there was only 1 sub plan that be fine but there is 2 and now your saying sub plan B dose not have the same rights as sub plan A.
    Actually no because if I had any say in it I would make it so all characters on the same server would have access to the personal house.

    I can certainly understand the desire for housing on multiple or even all characters. It's a damn shame we can't even add our alts to our friends list, because I would have done it already so my sweet lala can also enjoy the benefits of a house.
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