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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    One aspect of this housing issue we can all agree on is that SE needs to restrict personal houses to only one per server.
    No stop right there you do not speak for me or know what i agree with and in this case you are wrong i don't not agree with this. I payed $18 over a year ago to move to a low pop server to own housing for over a year 200-400 plot sat empty..yes i own 3 houses and have for a year. i play my 3 alts every week they all have differant taste.
    Every person who is crying they want a house could of had a house easy prior to free transfer by paying to move to a low pop server but they chose friends or server over housing i paid and picked housing. The whole ward thing on mathus guess what no one cared till free transfer there was still plenty of free lots there.. My server had 218 open plots at rock bottom prices the day of free transfers.

    I pay extra for 8 chars. my 8 chars should have all the rights the person paying for 1 char. If they wanna change the rules now fine so be it. but you cant take away the houses people worked hard for who broke no rules that is not fair just because people took a free ride and didnt get a house...The problem isnt the small handfull that own more then one house most of us on low pop servers Its thers only 2880 houses on all worlds where the population is 6k+ not counting free companys..

    Do you 100% honestly think its right to take way from people who broke no rules just to give to people in my case who took a free ride to my server?? Everyone who wanted a house on my server has one hell smalls were 1.5 mil lol med 8 mil.

    Bewared if they start taking rights away from what you pay extra for it wont stop here...Next will be retainers John doe is crashing the market so lets make it so only the 2 retainers thru storys can sell items

    Bottom line they need more wards and a ton of them other games do it and they sure have the money, figure out there monthly income from how many subs they say they have and lets just use the base subcription price..thats a ton of money a month
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 10-17-2017 at 09:20 AM.

  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    No stop right there you do not speak for me or know what i agree with and in this case you are wrong i don't not agree with this. I payed $18 over a year ago to move to a low pop server to own housing for over a year 200-400 plot sat empty..yes i own 3 houses and play my 3 alts every week they all have differant taste.

    Every person who is crying they want a house could of had a house easy prior to free transfer by paying to move to a low pop server but they chose friends or server over housing i paid and picked housing. The whole ward thing on mathus guess what no one cared till free transfer there was still plenty of free lots there.. My server had 218 open plots at rock bottom prices the day of free transfers
    Ideally no one should have to pay real money to get access to a house other than paying their sub to play the game. Furthermore most players come to the game not knowing about the specifics about housing, and by the time they know enough they have already invested loads of time in their character and their social circle. The fact that housing is often so cut-throat that players have to choose between their friends and a house just speaks volumes as to how incredibly flawed the system is.

    I could understand your argument if you had a personal house and a fc house on one character, I myself am in this position. But you also possess houses on alts. This game is literally designed for you to be able to do everything on one character, and does literally nothing to encourage playing alts. You can't even mail your alts. You can even choose a sub payment for only one character per server. Yes you paid for the houses but you having them on alts is you taking advantage of an oversight, not an intended feature of the housing system.

    You can argue about it until your face is blue, but the fact remains that everyone knows SE have designed the game so that you can do everything on one character, so logically all your housing should be on one character too.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You can argue about it until your face is blue, but the fact remains that everyone knows SE have designed the game so that you can do everything on one character, so logically all your housing should be on one character too.
    if there was only 1 sub plan that be fine but there is 2 and now your saying sub plan B dose not have the same rights as sub plan A. Sub plan A has 1 char you make it you have all the rights, Sub plan B you can make 8 chars but only 1 can own a house the rest have to be tied to it. My alts maybe dont want nothing to do with my main or my circle of friends from my main maybe its a ghost who only plays with certain people... It comes down to we pay extra money for more chars who all should have the same rights as the person who pays for 1..


    Like i said housing up to free transfer. Housing came down to making a chose. if you wanted it pay and move to a low pop server or stay with your friends..i know many people who payed to get in balmug then took free transfers to mathus just to scream n cry no houses lol when they left a server the first time that had houses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    if there was only 1 sub plan that be fine but there is 2 and now your saying sub plan B dose not have the same rights as sub plan A.
    Actually no because if I had any say in it I would make it so all characters on the same server would have access to the personal house.

    I can certainly understand the desire for housing on multiple or even all characters. It's a damn shame we can't even add our alts to our friends list, because I would have done it already so my sweet lala can also enjoy the benefits of a house.
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    I do agree to having it as one character per server. I have a alt on Gilgamesh and a alt on mateus. They both own just one house. I think ONE house per server is reasonable. And if we have alts all on one server. In my case my main is on Balmung along with two alts. While I'd never try to get a home for my alts k. Balmung having them as a tenant would be nice. Heck I don't even have apartments on them. Cause I'm wanting other people to get one. ( Even though Balmung have apartments open all the time)
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    I pay extra for 8 chars. my 8 chars should have all the rights the person paying for 1 char.
    You know what, I have that same sub too, and I STRONGLY disagree with your selfish stance.

    IMO, all accounts should have exactly one personal house per server. Any more is an abuse of the system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    If they wanna change the rules now fine so be it. but you cant take away the houses people worked hard for who broke no rules that is not fair just because people took a free ride and didnt get a house...
    No, SE should take action to correct their mistake, and if you get screwed in the process, so be it.

    You're part of the problem here, NOT the solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    You know what, I have that same sub too, and I STRONGLY disagree with your selfish stance.

    IMO, all accounts should have exactly one personal house per server. Any more is an abuse of the system.



    No, SE should take action to correct their mistake, and if you get screwed in the process, so be it.

    You're part of the problem here, NOT the solution.
    It is not abuse of the system lol that so funny.. i didn't bend any rules use any loop holes to get my houses..In fact i followed the rules i leveled my alts up to 50 beat the story (not required but i did) leveled my grand company and bought them deco each house to max items.
    now my server as i sat with my houses had any where from 200-400 at the peek empty plots after i had mine for over a year.. no one was hurting for houses till the "free riders" came in with there free transfers..in less then 48 hours 218 (yes i counted them in all 3 wards the night before) houses sold due to free transfers and we got q's to login yea us.. im not part of any problem i followed the rules heck i even paid real life cash to move to a place to have houses SE took my money for sure..I didnt take a free ride in hopes of gettin a house.

    The only ones that are the problem are the people who think for some reason its fair to punish those who did nothing wrong and take from.. i pay my sub just like you not my fault your on a higher pop server and didnt move pre free rides for a house cause we had plenty of houses for you

    Now if they do indeed change it to one house per account so be it, but rightfully you cant punish people who did nothing wrong we followed the rules set in front of us. If in any way we broke a rule i could see it but i didn't break any rules to get my houses

    I took away from no one there was plenty of houses open untill SE got enough money form all those transfers into balmug and had to close it lol you want talk about greed talk about SE closing char creation yet allowing thousands of people to transfer in via paying to the point they had to come up with this free transfer junk
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 10-17-2017 at 04:45 PM.

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    The only ones that are the problem are the people who think for some reason its fair to punish those who did nothing wrong and take from.. i pay my sub just like you not my fault your on a higher pop server and didnt move pre free rides for a house cause we had plenty of houses for you
    Yeah, you know how many times I've heard that "You don't pay my sub" from healers that don't DPS? Doesn't fly for an excuse there, won't fly here. Especially when we both have the same sub type.

    As much as you want to try and talk your way out of it, you are exploiting a SE screw up in the housing system that never should have allowed a single account to have more than one personal house on any given server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    Now if they do indeed change it to one house per account so be it, but rightfully you cant punish people who did nothing wrong we followed the rules set in front of us.
    When the rules are fundamentally broken, the rules need to change. Players need a grace period to adapt to them, but everyone should be forced onto the new system.

    That includes having all excess personal houses stripped from the player if they do not willingly release them before SE forces the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Yeah, you know how many times I've heard that "You don't pay my sub" from healers that don't DPS? Doesn't fly for an excuse there, won't fly here. Especially when we both have the same sub type.

    As much as you want to try and talk your way out of it, you are exploiting a SE screw up in the housing system that never should have allowed a single account to have more than one personal house on any given server.



    When the rules are fundamentally broken, the rules need to change..
    Im sorry but that is your opinion..The FACT is as it stands right now the rules state as long as you meet the requirments you can buy a house with alts. The FACTS are i followed rules set in front of me i did nothing wrong i did not explot in any way shape or form.. you may think SEs rule is broken and that is fine but just cause YOU THINK that dose not equal me or anyone else breaking the tos and exploting in any way..

    As ive said many times before im fine if they wanna change the rules now to one per account. but you cant punish those who didntt break your rules we followed your rules and did nothing wrong. takeing away from people who broke no rules id wrong
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 10-17-2017 at 05:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    You know what, I have that same sub too, and I STRONGLY disagree with your selfish stance.

    IMO, all accounts should have exactly one personal house per server. Any more is an abuse of the system.



    No, SE should take action to correct their mistake, and if you get screwed in the process, so be it.

    You're part of the problem here, NOT the solution.
    Or SE could just use a bit of the money they earn with FF14 to provide sufficient wards without screwing anyone. Problem solved.
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