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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Just like Jenomis, it's... basically just an obsession with Ivalice.
    That is kind of sad. I've said that FF XII is my favourite setting in the entire main series (but not my favourite FF overall; that's X/X-2, for having better character arcs) but... I can't comprehend looking at the amazingly rich history and setting of Hydaelyn's various civilisations, and trying to insist that they're all to be replaced by Ivalice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    That is kind of sad. I've said that FF XII is my favourite setting in the entire main series (but not my favourite FF overall; that's X/X-2, for having better character arcs) but... I can't comprehend looking at the amazingly rich history and setting of Hydaelyn's various civilisations, and trying to insist that they're all to be replaced by Ivalice.
    It's actually vice versa, kind of; the hypothesis is that Ivalice is a part of Hydaelyn. An Ivalice is, but not the Ivalice. (Case and point: Tactics is stated to take place long after XII, but Ba'Gamnan is wandering around here long after the War of the Lions. This is causally impossible unless Bangaa have extremely long lifespans, or this simply is not the Ivalice everyone knows and wants it to be.)

    For my part, I'm completely apathetic toward Ivalice (and Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre). I simply don't care, which is why the references were old even before "Return to Ivalice" pushed it to critical mass. I'd much rather see new stuff - things original to Hydaelyn. Just to put it in perspective, we know more about the Ivalice on Hydaelyn than we do about Skalla, a completely original nation / territory / whatever. There are big references to other past games (i.e. Crystal Tower) but none as prolific as Ivalice, especially with the introduction of its own raid series.

    (For the record, I did play half of XII but found the gameplay uninteresting. My favorite game is VII, though that's likely just because it's the first one I played; my favorite setting was IX's Gaia / Terra. I did play III's remake, and despite enjoying that game did not particularly care for the Crystal Tower series except getting to see Syrcus Tower remade in HD and the remixes of the World of Darkness music.)
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