Thread: Revelations from Patch 4.1

Well, well...

Look who I found while doing the M'naago delivery quests...

I wonder if Fordola can/has sensed him at some point while he's been in Ala Mhigo.

That added touch the delivery quest was really interesting and makes me hopeful for more of this to come

I wonder the implications of the epilogue of the kojin quest

what really was tsukumo in the end? A kami? are kami close to primals ?

Food for thought on the nature of the kami... Alisaie likens belief in the Kami to belief in the Twelve. And we know that it's possible to summon primal based on the Twelve. There's no reason Susano isn't like that. Also, the Blue Kojin more then likely know what kami is in the Yasakani-no-Magatama. That's the reason they want you to go get it for them in the first place. What they didn't know what that enough people have been praying to Susano over the centuries for the objects he inhabits to become saturated with aether which when combined summon a primal.
Also, I'm not sure where, but I swear I read somewhere in-game that Susano is the kami of the Ruby Sea in it's entirety. If someone could confirm/deny that, that would be great. If Susano is the kami of the Ruby Sea... well, the first major thing we see the kami (specifically the "kami of the deep") do is give the WoL, Lyse and Alisaie the ability to breath under water. I find it pretty ironic that Susano could be the one actually doing that right before we kill a primal of him.

Regardless, whatever kami are, they do exist. It's also mentioned in the quest Of Kojin and Kami that the kami themselves are the ones who pick what objects they "inhabit", but that they do prefer objects that are old, exquisite, well-made, etc. The Kojin themselves don't have anything to do with it; they're just looking for things that the kami tend to like to be in. So Tsukumo is the one choosing to inhabit the puppet for a time. Given that materia is what happens when the aetheric energy in a (well-used) object is condensed, the aetherial energy of kami's vessels must become very high. Actually, the Kojin say one of the reasons they have a treasure house is so that they can bask in the divine energy coming out of the objects in it.

TBH, there's a lot of things out there that are similar to kami. The Anima weapon is pretty much one (exquisite weapon and is housing an aetheric entity). Elementals are a lot like them (kami of the Twelveswood?). The Twelve are what Eorzea worships instead of kami. It's just that whatever kami Susano is supposed to be is so huge that it's aether is enough to make a primal.

I agree that Susano is extremely wierd as a primal because of his appearing but my point was to

in the final kojin tribe quest everyone forgets that Tsukumo even existed in the first place and we are given the possibility of forgetting him too, the elder kojin said that he had a similar experience in the past and that begets the question of what kami really are, since I do not believe it to be an aftereffect of the materia anymore