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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    A Thank You Letter To The Devs: Summoner

    I wanted to say, Thank You, developers for changing Summoner the way you did. The overhaul on it's playstyle is just absolutely amazing now and all the hard feelings I had towards it are gone now.

    But there's more to this letter than just thank you. I wanted to say thank you for listening to our feedback, taking it to heart, and making it a reality for us. You have quite literally given us almost everything we've asked for and that feels.. really great. For me, it makes me feel like making threads giving feedback actually matter. That they are actually read and taken seriously even though you guys may not respond directly. Makes me, and I'm sure many others, feel important and like their words actually mean something to you. That kind of thing makes me have more faith in you as Devs because you show you actually do care about what your players say.

    I made a list of all the feedback we gave back in that time at 4.0 release. Many were stressed out from Summoner's performance! But we provided feedback nonetheless.

    I also want to thank all the players who put in their support and feedback in the thread for the devs to see. You helped make SMN the way it is now!

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Ruin III needs to replace Ruin I. Seriously, every other job gets upgraded except SMN?
    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    -Buff miasma III 40-->50
    -Buff Bio III-->40-->50
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    2. Give Summoner a GCD AoE attack or something
    With Bane being nerfed to death, Deathflare nerfed, Miasma II deleted, Aetherflows in the trance taken away, and Blizzard II taken away, SMN really has no hope of doing any AoE damage outside of one burst that'll take away all of your resources. Without stacks you can only cast DoTs on each enemy then Ruin. While other jobs get to spam AoE... if SMN could get an AoE like that it would help alot. A Painflare-like AoE
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    If they not gonna buff ruin III , might as well reduce their mp cost. The MP cost for ruin III its ludicrous for how much damage it makes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkerin View Post
    • make ruin 3 replace ruin 1. *only change the mp cost for it, same potency*

    • make it so tribind is actually useful by buffing its potency and reducing cast and cost.

    • make devotion either a party wide buff
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    *Change Devotion to affect all party members.
    *Add Sustain back.

    Ruin:
    *Lower MP cost of Ruin III.
    *Change Ruin IV to instant cast.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    devotion be an aoe field around the pet, having it buff the whole party would be too op.
    Originally Posted by Everyone

    Bring Sustain back!!!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Combat-Changes

    Let's also not forget the feedbacks from various other threads. Regarding Bahamut's size, reducing MP cost of pets, reducing the cast time of pets!

    Thank you SE for listening to us. I am very, very happy with Summoner!!
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 10-11-2017 at 05:21 PM.

  2. 10-12-2017 01:27 AM
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  3. 10-12-2017 02:15 AM
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  4. #2
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Housing rage died down a bit I think... Bump!
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    Merlin Waltz
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Yea, thanks for fixing summoner.......NOW FIX DARK KNIGHT!
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    Finn Glesnes
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Its so much fun now, it feels good to run around spamming ruin in DWT :3
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    Alpha Bongo
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Now all we need is the aetherflow lockout removed and aethertrails/Dreadwyrm aether to stay after death and we're gold.
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sorawild34 View Post
    NOW FIX DARK KNIGHT!
    *Musters best Palpatine impression*

    Dew It
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorawild34 View Post
    Yea, thanks for fixing summoner.......NOW FIX DARK KNIGHT!
    Now now settle down just a bit .

    Best way to go at it is to specify what you want fixed!
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    Levenin Refure
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I love the changes made to SMN. It made me wanna play the class again after having given up and switching to BRD. Sure, Ruin III doesn't feel as powerful anymore but I'm fine with that if it means getting an upgrade from our boring Ruin spell we've had since level 1. The mobility has completely changed the class around for me. The extra mana I have now that I didn't before also makes Mana Shift a viable role action to use.

    My only real critique now is fixing pet AI because reaction and cast times are still iffy on that end. That, and Bahamut following me around and not attacking can be an issue when moving around for mechanics.

    But overall, now I'm torn between choosing SMN or BRD for my DPS runs so that's always a plus.
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    Saskia Ljosalfr - SCH/BRD - Midgardsormr | Levenin Refure - AST - Balmung
    M'ihrima Ulei - WHM - Balmung

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    Merlin Waltz
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Best way to go at it is to specify what you want fixed!
    Fair enough.

    Basically DRK has no good damage mitigation (we have Rampart and Shadow Wall but both of them have pretty large cooldown timers) while WAR and especially PLD has much better mitigation despite WAR's supposed to be the high damage low defense tank class. Also Living Dead is a huge meme and is pretty useless...Im not very good at articulating my thoughts in writing
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    Aster Locke
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I loved Summoner in 4.0 and I love it even more now. The changes were fantastic and Sustain is back as well.

    Even tested it. Before the patch I couldn't solo Pharos (Hard), couldn't even get past the Fighting Polygon Team boss. Now with Sustain, I can solo the entire dungeon without any worries.

    I'll be doing PotD and all the dungeons/EX Primals I can now. So much stuff just opened up without having to resort to RDM.
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