4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

[HyoMinPark]

Aside from the hyperbole idea that people roleplay as Farmers/Fishers and Miners and enjoy paying 15$/month for the most simplistic minigame. Sure an extreme minority only find pleasure in gathering and crafting /alone/ but that doesn't actually change the value of certain items/events/ scenarios. You could never sit there and and smile to SE if they decided to say "Hey instead of 4.2, we'll do patch 4.169 and add 20 new items to the cash shop. We'll do Patch 4.2 in another 3 months." So that you could turn around and say "Oh! That's a huge load of content added. I like the cash shop items a lot so this is a really big patch!"

Cash shop has zero to do with this discussion at all, so not sure why you're bringing it up. Nowhere in any of my comments did I even mention the cash shop, or how things added to it are/aren't content. You're arguing things that aren't relevant to my comments at all.

Value is subjective. I don't find PvP valuable; I do it for the mounts or when I'm bored, though I've only done Frontlines once since SB dropped. Doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and say any content changed or added to PvP isn't "content." I also don't care for Squadrons, yet I'm not saying the Squadron AI that's being added isn't "content." I am a bard main and I personally find "Perform" an extreme waste of resources, but I'm not going to say it isn't "content."

Just because you (General you) don't find content "valuable" or "worthwhile" doesn't mean that it's not content. SE could have added nothing, but instead they're adding several different things. And while I'm disappointed Eureka isn't in this patch, hopefully this means that they'll spend more time making it a success rather than another Diadem or Lords of Verminion.

[Yokotsune]

Im sure lack of content from SE has always developed into "investing time into more Content." Oh wait. It doesnt. Time to cycle through the same exact expansion as HW.

[Gravton]

Value is subjective. I don't find PvP valuable; I do it for the mounts or when I'm bored, though I've only done Frontlines once since SB dropped. Doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and say any content changed or added to PvP isn't "content." I also don't care for Squadrons, yet I'm not saying the Squadron AI that's being added isn't "content." I am a bard main and I personally find "Perform" an extreme waste of resources, but I'm not going to say it isn't "content."

Why does value define content? A new pvp map and game mode is content. Squadrons is a new feature that allows you to do old content. Perform is a new feature added for bard. This patch has more features coming than content. Some judge it to be "empty" because none of the content is designed to last 3 months for 4.2.

[HyoMinPark]

Why does value define content? A new pvp map and game mode is content. Squadrons is a new feature that allows you to do old content. Perform is a new feature added for bard. This patch has more features coming than content. Some judge it to be "empty" because none of the content is designed to last 3 months for 4.2.

I’m not the one saying “value” defines what content is. I’m saying that content is content, regardless of whether or not someone finds it “valuable” or “unvaluable.”

[Alash]

Even if Eureka was able to be in 3.15, we would not have heard about it until the live letter after this one anyway.

We actually know quite a bit about the new PvP mode they are introducing in 4.15. So far all we know of Eureka is some art work that made it look like the sea of clouds, and that it will be the way we are intended to get our relic weapon. So it could just be fates but who knows.

[Kahnom]

4.1 patch note (preliminary) on Lodestone.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...73c979ba32ec2d

[Kimimoto]

I can't agree more with the OP! I only get on to raid now, all the casual "content" available isn't fun. Considering it's going to take ~4 months for the next raid tier I don't have high hopes for the game.

On top of that! Japanese game devs like the team for FFXIV never look at other games and only use their own ideas, so I doubt it's going to improve.

[Pence]

On top of that! Japanese game devs like the team for FFXIV never look at other games and only use their own ideas, so I doubt it's going to improve.

Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....

[KalinOrthos]

I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?

[blindfoldedkaos]

I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?

People want all the content catered to them and their ideas, anything outside of that is a waste to them.

also people reacted like this 'cause of the pushback of stuff in the live letter, without anything to really go on.