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  1. #601
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokotsune View Post
    Yeah... its just content thats gated by your ability to produce gil in game. That counts as content equivalent to... idk a dungeon... or new recipes or anything actually new that the Devs are paid to come up with. They should just come up with a list of new cash shop items and that would be considered "content" but its only gated by your ability to shill 20$. Now the content that's actually supposed to give you value for your sub, is 100% lacking.
    I wouldn’t really say it’s gated behind making gil—gil isn’t that hard to make. It’s gated more behind lack of housing due to SE’s stubbornness to shift away from wards and towards instanced housing that everyone can access. Crafting recipes are gated behind desire to level crafters; same with gathering. PVP is locked behind one’s desire to do the content. Just because they’re “gated” behind money or desire doesn’t make them any less content than other things like dungeons or MSQ.

    Value is a subjective measure. Some people don’t care about the battle aspect of this game and would rather craft/gather, but I don’t see them in this thread trying to say that the new Housing Wards or Ultimate Savage arent “content” just because they don’t see the value in them.
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    Alash's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    >hasn't even completed half the content in the game

    >complains about lack of content

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    Hey, I just wanted to chime in here since I've just let this thread run wild. I do not mind people searching me on the lodestone and finding out that I have yet to clear O4S, which is the only piece of content from Stormblood that I have yet to complete. I keep my lodestone information public because I am proud of the things I have accomplished in the game (mainly the Big Fishing quest, how come they don't make those anymore?) and would like people to see them.

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  3. #603
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    For everyone else thank you all for showing this thread so much attention. I am proud of you all for committing so much of your time to discussing the various qualities of the game in this thread and floating it to the top of the page - even eclipsing glamor/bare feet/children ect threads - as it is my belief that the only way that the community and the game will progress forward is the candid discussion of such topics. It is my hope that the two sides of the conversation will be able to find some middle ground that we can all stand on. It doesn't matter how small that middle ground is because there is no clipping in this game (hey, now there's a feature that they should introduce for quest givers so you can actually see them on patch day! *wink wink*).
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  4. #604
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Value is a subjective measure. Some people don’t care about the battle aspect of this game and would rather craft/gather, but I don’t see them in this thread trying to say that the new Housing Wards or Ultimate Savage arent “content” just because they don’t see the value in them.
    Honestly crafting and gathering aficionados are the most shafted players atm since they hardly get anything and so far SB didn't bring much
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  5. #605
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alash View Post
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    In case you are not aware. To get around the 1000 character posting limit just use a short sentence. I usually say editing with junk to hit minimum characters.After posting go edit it and there is no more 1K character limit.
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  6. #606
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alash View Post
    Hey, I just wanted to chime in here since I've just let this thread run wild. I do not mind people searching me on the lodestone and finding out that I have yet to clear O4S, which is the only piece of content from Stormblood that I have yet to complete. I keep my lodestone information public because I am proud of the things I have accomplished in the game (mainly the Big Fishing quest, how come they don't make those anymore?) and would like people to see them.
    Meh. Her comment was relevant to the discussion anyway. We are discussing 4.1 not 2.0-4.0 or 4.2-5.0 for that matter.
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  7. #607
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Honestly crafting and gathering aficionados are the most shafted players atm since they hardly get anything and so far SB didn't bring much
    What!? You are getting a brand new collectible turn in on top of the 2 you already have AND it will still reward red scripts. You still need those right? The npc is completely different so new content! =P
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  8. #608
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I wouldn’t really say it’s gated behind making gil—gil isn’t that hard to make. It’s gated more behind lack of housing due to SE’s stubbornness to shift away from wards and towards instanced housing that everyone can access. Crafting recipes are gated behind desire to level crafters; same with gathering.
    Aside from the hyperbole idea that people roleplay as Farmers/Fishers and Miners and enjoy paying 15$/month for the most simplistic minigame. Sure an extreme minority only find pleasure in gathering and crafting /alone/ but that doesn't actually change the value of certain items/events/ scenarios. You could never sit there and and smile to SE if they decided to say "Hey instead of 4.2, we'll do patch 4.169 and add 20 new items to the cash shop. We'll do Patch 4.2 in another 3 months." So that you could turn around and say "Oh! That's a huge load of content added. I like the cash shop items a lot so this is a really big patch!"
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  9. #609
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    In case you are not aware. To get around the 1000 character posting limit just use a short sentence. I usually say editing with junk to hit minimum characters.After posting go edit it and there is no more 1K character limit.
    Cheers mate, wasn't aware. Such a silly system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gravton View Post
    Meh. Her comment was relevant to the discussion anyway. We are discussing 4.1 not 2.0-4.0 or 4.2-5.0 for that matter.
    In the future we could be discussing a patch that is very much like this one, which is why I think it is important to start now instead of later. The fact of the matter is that the game is getting pretty old now - no matter how consistent they are with content if we're just getting the same thing over and over it'll wear the community down to a nub. You can only rub it so much you know?

    Seeing that Eureka would not be in this patch you'd think they'd at least let us know what Eureka was intended to be, might have smoothed it over a bit. It's worrying that we've heard absolutely nothing about how Eureka is intended to function.
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  10. #610
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alash View Post
    Seeing that Eureka would not be in this patch you'd think they'd at least let us know what Eureka was intended to be, might have smoothed it over a bit. It's worrying that we've heard absolutely nothing about how Eureka is intended to function.
    Even if Eureka was able to be in 3.15, we would not have heard about it until the live letter after this one anyway.
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