Veteran Reward changes - Big slap in the face for long time vets?

[Felis]

lol, I literally just posted this but here I'll put it again:



Quoted from the bottom of the page about the changes. So you'll still get your fantasias, no worries! Perhaps even an extra one if you complete the MSQ on your alt.

exactly
old players - don't have to work on achievements on alts to get enough points to buy the already earned minions for them.
new players - have to work for it on every character they create

[Mikki]

exactly
old players - don't have to work on achievements on alts to get enough points to buy the already earned minions for them.
new players - have to work for it on every character they create

Yep! And you know, that's a pretty big deal for people who like to create alts. As someone who has a ton of them, I'm grateful that they decided to do this. I was honestly expecting that any newly created characters would have to work for all of the rewards, but this was such a pleasant surprise. I feel bad for any person who didn't qualify for things in time to be grandfathered in, but loves creating alts.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

it seems that the veteran players truly dont have any kind of thank you anymore

Veteran Rewards were never a "thank you." They were intended to incentivize a continual subscription, which lost its luster when new players would be waiting several years before seeing potentially their favourite character's outfits. The actual "thank you" has always been to Legacy players who have a permanent reduction to their sub.

[Alleo]

Veteran Rewards were never a "thank you."

Yes the last few rewards where a bit too much, so decreasing them was the sensible thing to do. (The huge amount of it not imo)

Well even if it was not directly a thank you it was still a reward for staying with this game for a long period of time. Now this incentive will be gone and instead of that they will have those specific campaigns. I am just not really sure if SE realize that some might have constantly stayed subbed for the rewards and that this constant sub might fall away now. I mean its kinda good for the people since you could save some money but SE will lose money at the same time.

And like I pointed out, depending on the amount of achievement points needed this might even be bad for some of the newer players.

IMO its just strange how SE seems totally fine in losing sub money by telling people to take breaks if they are bored and by even taking away any kind of long time incentive to stay constantly subbed..

[BillyKaplan]

Now this incentive will be gone and instead of that they will have those specific campaigns.

Depending on how often they run them, it'll be the exact same thing, though. Sub for a period of time and get an award. Now it's a lot more immediate gratification than before where people likely lost hope at some point. If someone wanted the Squall outfit, and it needed 4 years, they wouldn't bother. But if it takes 30 days extra sub time to get a mount you kind of want, people are likelier to get it.

I am just not really sure if SE realize that some might have constantly stayed subbed for the rewards and that this constant sub might fall away now.

I feel like people completely forgot what's the primary purpose of buying sub time in this game. It's to play the game. And while I acknowledge a lot of people continued their sub just for the awards, that is not what people should buy the sub for, and honestly I doubt it's such a massive demographic. Furthermore, it's a demographic SE has limited motivation to invest in. Look at it this way - this is an MMO, who's likelier to bring their friends to play, people who actually pay the sub to play the game, or people who don't really play and only buy the sub for glamour? When you look at it in this way, it becomes obvious who's the demographic SE has more interest in keeping. And if you did pay it for the glamour... well you still want to play the game, right? You'll resub eventually, chances are.

IMO its just strange how SE seems totally fine in losing sub money by telling people to take breaks if they are bored and by even taking away any kind of long time incentive to stay constantly subbed..

Not really. If nothing else it skews their statistics, for one. It also encourages lowered strain on the servers. If you have a sub going and you just feel like hopping onto Balmung, you can (general example). If your sub ran out, that's at least one less person on one of the most congested servers in the game for a while, and as far as they're concerned, that's a really, really good thing.

[HyoMinPark]

Yes the last few rewards where a bit too much, so decreasing them was the sensible thing to do. (The huge amount of it not imo)

Well even if it was not directly a thank you it was still a reward for staying with this game for a long period of time. Now this incentive will be gone and instead of that they will have those specific campaigns. I am just not really sure if SE realize that some might have constantly stayed subbed for the rewards and that this constant sub might fall away now. I mean its kinda good for the people since you could save some money but SE will lose money at the same time.

And like I pointed out, depending on the amount of achievement points needed this might even be bad for some of the newer players.

IMO its just strange how SE seems totally fine in losing sub money by telling people to take breaks if they are bored and by even taking away any kind of long time incentive to stay constantly subbed..

If you have been paying ~$15 USD/month or whatever for a sub plan or game time cards just for the veterans rewards and not to, you know, actually play and enjoy the game, then you have been paying a subscription for the entirely wrong reasons, in my honest opinion.

And I actually don’t see an issue with SE telling individuals to take breaks and perhaps play other games or focus on other aspects of life. Although my tenure in FFXI was extremely short, I still remember, and am quite fond of, the message SE displayed upon logging in: to remember that this is just a game, and to not forget about other aspects and/or responsibilities in your life.

[SigmaOZ]

Square Enix wants to make quick cash now, they'll just try to hook up new players for at least one year and then see what they can come up with to make more money, I'm not sure what games will end up like now!...

Well, not everything is so bad, quality will inevitably keep on getting better until we get those 40 Teraflops required for lifelike graphics!...

[Ilan]

Square Enix wants to make quick cash now, they'll just try to hook up new players for at least one year and then see what they can come up with to make more money, I'm not sure what games will end up like now!...

Well, not everything is so bad, quality will inevitably keep on getting better until we get those 40 Teraflops required for lifelike graphics!...

You all act as if the veteran rewards would be game changing. They are just freaking outfits that most people don't even use.

[ErryK]

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Sometimes it really is better to say nothing... :thinking:

[shaijis]

This is such a great thing, and I for one am really happy for the change. It's not like anyone is taking anything away from people who have gotten the rewards from subbing; and it's not like anyone even did anything to deserve the rewards other than play the game normally in the first place. I mean, hand every player all the Savage mounts in the mail suddenly? That would be mildly annoying. But free extra glamour options? YYYYYYEEEAAAH

Now could we have the Firion attire dyeable? It's gorgeous, but I haven't been able to use it in any glamour yet due to the color scheme. And all the other outfits can be dyed! Pretty please? ^^