4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

[MyaValentine]

In the end all of us want this game to succeed and have alot of content that we can enjoy.

I agree with you almost at 100% infact I think it's the most constructive feedback out of the entire thread and I thank you for it, that bein said is one thing claiming " I feel this patch doesn't offer anything to me" " I don't like the current content" or anything personlly everyone is entitle to their opinion and yes is good to be entitle as a customer and like I said I agree with this. But one thing are your personal feelings another is ignoring facts for the sake of victimizing themselves. specially since these "feelings" are based over a simplfied trailer the devs decided to make to try a new format, instead of a 8 min trailer they it 4 min by cutting all the fluf and just leaving the main attractions in it. we don't even have patch notes nor we fully know everything that is coming this patch yet we have a 40+ pages threat claiming is empty. 2 different things 2 different attitudes.

Maybe its me, but are you responding to another player and you quoted Missybee by mistake?

nah, it was directed at him but between this and this ----->

/10char

I feel I'm missing something.

I don't get it, plez explain.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Today I learned that if you aren't happy with what Square Enix is putting out content-wise, you are "spoiled" and "entitled."

It seems like many people who are shouting "unsubscribe" haven't considered the fact that those expressing concerns actually really like this game. I personally care about the breadth of content because I want to continue to be engaged. I'm not going to sit here and start doomsaying, but I don't think there is anything wrong with expressing disappointment at what is shaping up to be a lackluster patch.

Most haven't taken umbrage to complaints in general. In fact, I'd actually agree that 4.1 isn't offering a whole lot. What some have been irked by is the vitriol towards Ultimate-- a rehash of primarily old mechanics reused with numbers scaled up. Why? Because it's the first raid exclusive content released in over a year that is intended to challenge the hardcore crowd. Put another way, stop blaming us for SE's sparse content update this patch. And stop demanding they take away a mode we may like because you (generalizing) won't. I think Perform is a complete waste of resources, but I'm not here complaining they did that instead of adding something else.

[missybee]

You forgot new PvP mode, that is not part of Frontline

Unfortunately, as far as I know, we are having to wait on PVP with Gundams until 4.15 or something along those lines.

That one was excluded from my October 10 list by design.

[Istaru]

also relics came out on 3.15 back in HW not in 3.1 which actually means it came about 8 months after 3.0 which is not even close to the 3 month after the release of Stormblood.

Just for clarity:
3.0 release: 19Jun15
3.15 release: 15Dec15
Time elapsed: 179 days (6 months)

I am going to give you credit on part of what you wrote. I think we will not get SB relics until we are close to the 8 month mark from SB launch (early February).

[MyaValentine]

Most haven't taken umbrage to complaints in general. In fact, I'd actually agree that 4.1 isn't offering a whole lot. What some have been irked by is the vitriol towards Ultimate-- a rehash of primarily old mechanics reused with numbers scaled up. Why? Because it's the first raid exclusive content released in over a year that is intended to challenge the hardcore crowd. Put another way, stop blaming us for SE's sparse content update this patch. And stop demanding they take away a mode we may like because you (generalizing) won't. I think Perform is a complete waste of resources, but I'm not here complaining they did that instead of adding something else.

there's thank you, you actually put it in better words than what I could this is exactly what I've been trying to say. please /threat.

[Fredco191]

there's thank you, you actually put it in better words than what I could this is exactly what I've been trying to say. please /threat.

....Threat?

[Aramina]

....Threat?

Pretty sure she meant /thread

[JunseiKei]

Today I learned that if you aren't happy with what Square Enix is putting out content-wise, you are "spoiled" and "entitled."

It seems like many people who are shouting "unsubscribe" haven't considered the fact that those expressing concerns actually really like this game.

Forgot UI changes as well as Sleipnir flying and the broom getting animations for flight. Two additions that have been heavily requested.

It's not so much the concern as the outright dismissal of things being added, albeit not to people's liking, are being told to others, and pushed on others as an ideal, that resources for development were wasted. Those are the spoiled and entitled people. Literally, we are still getting 1 extreme primal, 1 dungeon, 1 set of beastman dailies, 1 24 man raid, increased map dungeon, more story; this is literally almost all of the majority of the player base could want. The "spoiled" and "entitled" just want more. Seriously, it's like being offered two cookies, slapping the hand offering said cookies and screaming they want more while simultaneously saying that not enough is the same as nothing new.

Yes, we're not getting much in terms of overall playable content, but we are getting some as well as quality of life changes based on player feedback. These changes also require development time and resources. How people treat this, fixing bugs is a waste of development and resources because it doesn't give you anything new to do, right?

Yeah, it's a shame that some things got pushed back, but SE has their reasons, whatever they may be. I don't care that people are complaining - people always complain over something - it's just the blatant attitude toward "no content!" because some don't like what is coming, or isn't coming.

Most haven't taken umbrage to complaints in general. In fact, I'd actually agree that 4.1 isn't offering a whole lot. What some have been irked by is the vitriol towards Ultimate-- a rehash of primarily old mechanics reused with numbers scaled up. Why? Because it's the first raid exclusive content released in over a year that is intended to challenge the hardcore crowd. Put another way, stop blaming us for SE's sparse content update this patch. And stop demanding they take away a mode we may like because you (generalizing) won't. I think Perform is a complete waste of resources, but I'm not here complaining they did that instead of adding something else.

Quoted for truth.

[Avatre]

I've kind of refrained from commenting here, but here goes.

While it might not be lots of content, I will wait until AFTER I've seen it to pass judgement, because if the quality is there(which, really, we can't tell until we actually get our hands on it all...) then I think the quantity sacrificed for quality might just make up for it.

[Rufalus]

To the people making realistic demands, just want content to last longer - I agree, there's a lot that could be done to extend life.

Examples...
> Run content at minimum item level could be encouraged by unique rewards. Drops gear of slightly higher level with dyeing unlocked, maybe an extra materia slot, maybe tokens to save towards something.

> Time Trial mode, gives coffers to be appraised for random loot, higher amount of coffers for faster clear times. Add rare drops unique to each instance like a coral crafting mat at Shisui. Possibly scale all the leveling dungeons to lv70 for fun, scale the enemy HP and power. Good way to earn gil.

> Exploration mode, return to cleared instances to explore for vistas, gathering nodes, sidequests, triple triad opponents, anything number of things that could be added into all those locations that until now have only been used for linear dungeon runs. Less resource heavy to reuse locations more instead of creating new ones every time.