4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

[missybee]

Today I learned that if you aren't happy with what Square Enix is putting out content-wise, you are "spoiled" and "entitled."

It seems like many people who are shouting "unsubscribe" haven't considered the fact that those expressing concerns actually really like this game. I personally care about the breadth of content because I want to continue to be engaged. I'm not going to sit here and start doomsaying, but I don't think there is anything wrong with expressing disappointment at what is shaping up to be a lackluster patch.

What we are actually getting on October 10 is pretty bare bones (forgive me if I am missing anything):

-MSQ
-24 Man
-New Dungeon
-New Trial
-One set of beastman quests
-Shirogane
-Job adjustments (not really content, per se...)

As others have mentioned, for a lot of people this equates to about a day of shiny new content. It is concerning, particularly if it becomes a trend.

[MyaValentine]

entitlements and opinions

I don't even know were to begin with you, I'm actually not going to waste time with this as you seem to be unneable to differenciate OPINIONS with FACT that actually seem to be the topic of this threat since everyone following after you preaching there's no content or that this patch is lacking. All your comment can simplified to one thing "personal opnions" you seem to thing that your word is law or if you don't want it no one wants it, well let me tell you something my friend you are by no means the voice of our community/representative neither someone to speak for the mayority or minority your opinoins sadly for you means about the absolute amount of a sack of air. You opinion does not change fact, you don't matter more than anyone else and even if it's content for the 1% they are still players who matters I'm sorry to burst your bubble you are not more improtant than anyone. Also you seriusly don't know what you are talking about have the time you make up numbers and lies like a factory.

The topic of the threat isn't "patch4.1 don't break the mold" is "patch4.1 is the emptiest" there's ----anything---- and servers will be dead. Just go to show how much you put your opnions above the "FACTS",

my point, that something that was deserving even to be push to 4.3.... instead it was pushed in 4.1... even to the point that eureka was pushed back to 4.2....

I don't even want to know how you come up with your 4.3 (oh yeah opinions). (ULTIMATE) did not pushed eureka back, ultimate is reused content and assets with adjustments if anything (ULIMATE) is the best use of content the devs have ever done since the beguinning of this game. Eurika got pushed back because it's more ambitious is not just another relic it takes time you don't have to be a "white night" to us logic to see the scope and reason of why it got pushed back. also relics came out on 3.15 back in HW not in 3.1 which actually means it came about 8 months after 3.0 which is not even close to the 3 month after the release of Stormblood.

right now the community is a mess... the toxic level of some people reach... some dangerous states

mostly because we lack content that force people to change them mind about difficulty..

-this is a gross overxageration. FF14 is about one of the best when it comes to community that you will find online far from toxic if you think players disbanding is is "toxic" idk how you even survive on the internet.
-yet here you are.

i ask content at 4 challenging and rewarding, for force player to try harder, to get skill, to change mentality.

This is "your topic" this is what "you" want and this is all you come down too after more than 500 words of your personal opinion an entitle remarks. To which hey agree I will like more dificult 4 man content. BUT THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD if you want to discusss about this make your own thread talking about this and not make a fool of yourself talking about topics in complete ignorance.

is not because people are happy with what bring 4.1 that it don't means it don't lack on some point. i don't say it's a bad patch, i say it lack some stuff... and that some add was not urgent and was maybe needed later...

unbelievable. Has it ever maybe occur to you that MAYBE is the opposite? Not because you are not happy with what brings 4.1 that it doesn't means it lack on content. your opinion is not factually true.

[MyaValentine]

Today I learned that if you aren't happy with what Square Enix is putting out content-wise, you are "spoiled" and "entitled."

no offense maybe what you should go learn is a little more about reading comprehension. No one here is spoled and entitle for not liking something, if that's what you got then I'd urge you to go read again. but making a threat claiming there's nothing ---anything---- "emptiest patch yet" and the reason behind why it's empty is because I don't like it hence there's nothing, servers will be dead, claiming the sky is falling, claiming that because in my head only 3% of the community do it and I don't then they don't deserve content, if I think it's niche then it doesn't need to exist, that mine should be first because I matter most, that they should not waste time on content I choose not to do, that I want something this game don't offer, that it doesn't offer anything new because I don't like it or do it.....we can keep going on and on. if that to you aint spoiled I don't know what is.

[Clover_Blake]

People actually complaining that there's a variety of content for different tastes... O_O

All this talk about raids and dungeons... We're getting renewed housing maps and a music system, among tons of other things. Those take development time too, you know, even if you personally don't care (but I do! It's fluff things like these what keep me hooked to this game, in fact).

[Aramina]

who says they have to go in order I dont even like potd but they could of already released it, they could have released eruka

You understand that they release things when they are complete right? Potd isn't postponed because of Ultimate, it is postponed because it is not ready yet. Eureka is not postponed because of Ultimate, Eureka is postponed because it is not ready yet. Whether or not Ultimate was released in 4.1. or 4.2 or 4.3 or 5.0 those things that you mentioned would still not be ready for 4.1.

[missybee]

no offense maybe what you should go learn is a little more about reading comprehension.

/10char

[bswpayton]

People actually complaining that there's a variety of content for different tastes... O_O

All this talk about raids and dungeons... We're getting renewed housing maps and a music system, among tons of other things. Those take development time too, you know, even if you personally don't care (but I do! It's fluff things like these what keep me hooked to this game, in fact).

fluff isnt real content , minion is not content , nor is a song, content is something that you can actually actively engage in which this patch is basicly pretty thin, the skye isnt falling of course , but once raiders get rekted by ultimate. And people have shiryu on farm, and you do your weekly 24 man you are pretty much gona go right back to what your doing in game now. This patch doesnt change anything for me at all just add two new things to farm now thats about it a once a week 24 man, and shiryu.

[Laerune]

no offense maybe what you should go learn is a little more about reading comprehension. No one here is spoled and entitle for not liking something, if that's what you got then I'd urge you to go read again. but making a threat claiming there's nothing ---anything---- "emptiest patch yet" and the reason behind why it's empty is because I don't like it hence there's nothing, servers will be dead, claiming the sky is falling, claiming that because in my head only 3% of the community do it and I don't then they don't deserve content, if I think it's niche then it doesn't need to exist, that mine should be first because I matter most, that they should not waste time on content I choose not to do, that I want something this game don't offer, that it doesn't offer anything new because I don't like it or do it.....we can keep going on and on. if that to you aint spoiled I don't know what is.

Maybe its me, but are you responding to another player and you quoted Missybee by mistake?

Anyway, I think its fine to be entitled and I dont understand why some players are using this in a negative manner. We are customers, we bought the expansion with good faith (lets be real here, would anyone have bought this expansion, if SE told us we would get less content every patch?) that SE would deliver the quality content that we are used to. Patch 4.1 looks empty for some players, so they want to share their opinion, I dont see anything wrong with it. Trying to shame them is only (not directed at you, MyaValentine) going to make you look like some white knight fanboy. I agree with Missybee, that the people who come here and complain about the patch are doing it out of love for this game, they want to see it improve.

In the end all of us want this game to succeed and have alot of content that we can enjoy.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I usually agree wit you bourne-Endeavor but I just dont feel like this is the case, the devs have already said they anticipated that many people would clear v1s and v2s and struggle with v3s, and 4s. They said this in a live letter so its not like even all raiders are destroying this whole raid tier we have now even if some believe its watered down. So if the data already shows that people have struggled with ,3 and 4 then if super savage is 10 times harder than 4, then how many people are we really talkin here. It would be Im guessing people such as your self and streamers and such I like to watch like xeynos, happy etc, but if this lives up to what they claim and have boasted about then this should be the hardest raid in the game thus far, so if thats the case then even most raiders wont even be clearing it either thus = a waste of resources.

To be fair, clear rates for Creator shot up significantly once 3.5 released. Many casual raiders either wait until the catch up patch or simply aren't quite ready to prog through Neo. Personally, I doubt Ultimate will be nearly as difficult as the hype suggests. Yoshida has been prattling on about Thordan's difficult since Zurvan yet neither he nor Shinryu come remotely close. I could be proven wrong in the later's case, but I'll be shocked. My estimation is Angered downs Ultimate within 10 hours-- with other hardcore groups not too far behind. If that's the case, expect midcore raiders, myself included, to bring it down in a couple weeks which places it between Neo Exdeath and Living Liquid.

Personally, I'd start being worried Ultimate doesn't cause raiding to take a hit again. It comes two turns later than A3S did, which is a good thing, but it'll probably be a similar situation for those who DO intend to tackle it.

You're neglecting one factor. Gordias gated progression during a time when there was very little else to do. Ultimate literally offers nothing except bragging rights and maybe a mount and/or title. For those uninterested, you have Ivalice, Savage, Shinryu, Squadron stuff, PvP and etc to focus on. Back in 3.1, all you had was Thordan and Void Ark. One good piece of content and one so undertuned it's a common joke to call it a walking simulator.

[Felis]

Today I learned that if you aren't happy with what Square Enix is putting out content-wise, you are "spoiled" and "entitled."

Most are complaining about the choice of words, not about the grade of happiness

What we are actually getting on October 10 is pretty bare bones (forgive me if I am missing anything):

-MSQ
-24 Man
-New Dungeon
-New Trial
-One set of beastman quests
-Shirogane
-Job adjustments (not really content, per se...)

As others have mentioned, for a lot of people this equates to about a day of shiny new content. It is concerning, particularly if it becomes a trend.

You forgot new PvP mode, that is not part of Frontline