Tanks Letting DPS Die

[Karshan]

Wow maybe I'm speaking Chinese. Lets give this another shot.
But if you grab aggro it's on you. There's nothing subjective about that. It's YOUR enmity, it's YOUR management or failure to do so. So yes if your tank is in dps stance building no aggro then you should "just stand there twiddling your fingers". There's -nothing- ludicrous about that.

Again, your aggro, your responsibility. The tank's responsibility is not to cap his group's dps. They're two separate things that work together. So yes, grabbing agro is always the DPS' fault even though it often stems from a poor tanking situation. Varying degrees of good intentions/selfishness from the tank are irrelevant, your responsibilities don't change.

I see what you mean. If I used everything else, as you said there's only not attacking that can prevent me from getting hate.

You say you see nothing ludicrous in that. There, I disagree. Not doing anything to focus on my secondary responsibility over my primary (damage) just because the tank fails at HIS primary role (hold hate to be the one getting hit) should not happen. So yes, ripping aggro is caused by my spells, hence my responsibility, AND the tank's failure to his (no failure = not happening).

I know it sounds a bit "git gud" here but it's not really my point. I'm not gonna be rude to such tanks, nor do I votekick ot trashtalk. Hell I won't either judge anything on small mistakes, it's just an inconvenience not a grave offense. But mostly, what I do now, is just going with tanks I know.
Or even sometimes I tank myself, to see the other side of the coin and so I DO know of situations where the DPS make no effort either whatsoever. But if I lose hate I go and get it back.