Tanks Letting DPS Die

[Okamimaru]

This is why parsers are a bad idea... people getting pissed because a dps is too low but dps has to hold back so he doesn't rip aggro from a tank who is getting praise for his dps...

[Sawamura]

This is why parsers are a bad idea... people getting pissed because a dps is too low but dps has to hold back so he doesn't rip aggro from a tank who is getting praise for his dps...

Well if you can see the parse number is not bad idea to give advice to help people do better. But is pretty sad people use parse to like this way to bully/kick people. Parse suppose to be a tool to help improve perform.

[gumas]

I main healer so sorry if i ask stupid question since i only can look this from healer perspective.

Can dps aggro more than tank throughout the fight? SAM and RDM is the only class i always see them doing this but, even then its only for the first 15-20 seconds of combat, after that aggro back to tank and everything went as usual. As long as tank play as usual, i never see any dps can out aggro tank in combat from start to finish, unless its a dg level 30 and below since tank is still not at their optimal playstyle.

[Capn_Goggles]

I main healer so sorry if i ask stupid question since i only can look this from healer perspective.

Can dps aggro more than tank throughout the fight? SAM and RDM is the only class i always see them doing this but, even then its only for the first 15-20 seconds of combat, after that aggro back to tank and everything went as usual. As long as tank play as usual, i never see any dps can out aggro tank in combat from start to finish, unless its a dg level 30 and below since tank is still not at their optimal playstyle.

Yes, all other things equal, a DPS will build enmity faster than a tank since they do more damage. If a tank stays in DPS stance and doesn't use their enmity combo, losing aggro to the DPS/healer is inevitable if they do not use their enmity management abilities.

[Aquaslash]

The problem I will have is that I regularly use diversion, and STILL pull hate from the tank. For whatever reason, they just can't keep up.

On another hand, 99% of my raid deaths are from a tank flubbing his CD rotation and eating dirt on a TB which then causes me to get btfo cause I was #2 on aggro. That one I don't understand because shouldn't the tanks be doing the shirk circlejerk?

[Neela]

The problem I will have is that I regularly use diversion, and STILL pull hate from the tank. For whatever reason, they just can't keep up.

...you are a SAM, arent u? Question answered.

[NovaLevossida]

On another hand, 99% of my raid deaths are from a tank flubbing his CD rotation and eating dirt on a TB which then causes me to get btfo cause I was #2 on aggro. That one I don't understand because shouldn't the tanks be doing the shirk circlejerk?

Different job here, but when that happens, I hammer the Lucid Dreaming button as fast as I can. "Go away, go away, go away!"

[Kabooa]

Different job here, but when that happens, I hammer the Lucid Dreaming button as fast as I can. "Go away, go away, go away!"

Then your heart sinks when you realize the Critical Strike gauge already started.

"Hello."

"The end is neeeeeeaaaar..."

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

If the DPS/Healers grabbed hate and didn't use their enmity tools, its their fault.

If the DPS/Healers grabbed hate despite using their enmity tools correctly, its the tanks fault.

Easy, under no circumstance should anyone be forced to cull their performance because the tank is too inept to grab enough hate before switching to DPS stance. Even when undergeared, tanks should be able to keep hate and DPS just fine, if the DPS have to literally stop attacking after using their enmity tools, the tank has messed up massively.

[Critical-Limit]

In a situation where dps didn't use diversion, and tank loses hate cuz refuses to change to tank stance. I even if hypothetically the tank can hold just fine in dps stance if they use diversion.

It's both their faults. If you wanna be good dps, use diversion.
If you wanna be good tank, react to the baddie and use more enmity combos or *gasp*... change to the tank stance.

People should be adapting. I know you shouldn't have to carry, but honestly the more you can carry, means the better you are.

Who's better tank that wipes party cuz they are losing hate because they prioritize dps

Or a tank that adapts to the bad dps who won't use their tools and changes stance to keep the hate?