Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
I have watched DRK's spam the SE combo. I have watched PLD's spam Riot Blade. I have been in dungeons were I couldn't even heal the tank without pulling threat. The tank going dps stance to boost their own dps while hamstringing real dps because they don't want to manage threat properly. DPS can use their tools when tanks are doing their best but otherwise the tank is being selfish if they don't want to stance dance.

So no it isn't always on the dps.
If i tank a boss as a DRK i'll use my hate combo once at the start and thats usualy enough if the dps' are using diversion and so on properly and that means i'll leave tankstance and if everyone is doing their job properly i don't have to go back into tankstance again. If a dps is ripping hate of me in such a situation he is either completly overgeared compared to me, what results in me using more often the hate combo, or he is just a lazy joker who doesn't use his skills properly. I can understand that tanks let these jokers bite the dust because they are incredible annoying. I also understand tanks who get pissed off if someone always has to pull more mobs, except to maintain buffs etc.

What i don't understand are these tanks where the dps is doing nothing wrong and they still are not able to hold hate of 3 mobs and don't even care to keep hate.