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    Player
    Karshan's Avatar
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    Lina Kirell
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    Nice strawman. If I'm doing a big pull and I miss a mob, obviously I'll run back and get it, how is that the DPS's fault? oh, but i'll tell you what IS the DPS's fault, if I'm doing a big pull or still in the process of pulling mobs and they go crazy on one enemy and rip aggro or when I'm still pulling and you get that (are, but it's hapened to me) BLM/SMN that uses their AOE burst whilst I'm still pulling causing a bunch of mobs to aggo on them, making me have to interupt he run, and run back, picking them up.
    And don't misunderstand me, while I'm a SMN loving AOEs, I hate that as well to see some go berserk the moment they see the targeting arrow of the tank going on the first mob, like some sort of bloodthirsty grizzly bear. I just react to the fact that, while the blame on the tank often isn't deserved, it sometimes is and being tank or heal doesn't give a special status regarding complaints.
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    Venoshock's Avatar
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    Character
    Char Mae
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    ... I just react to the fact that, while the blame on the tank often isn't deserved, it sometimes is and being tank or heal doesn't give a special status regarding complaints.
    Where did I imply the contrary?
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I have never encountered this issue before unless I'm on SMN and I'm being an idiot I.e. using bahamut and my stacks with no diversion or lucid which is noone fault but my own.....DPS need to be held accountable for their enmity as well I see it to many times
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    Capn_Goggles's Avatar
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    Yuri Goggles
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 80
    Unless you're playing SAM or MNK, you have plenty of enmity management tools available. DPS never goad during AoE pulls, they never manashift healers, they never use their free enmity management; DPS are spoiled by the fact that nobody expects anything out of them.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    When threat starts throttling DPS, it's the tanks responsibility.
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    Ichirai's Avatar
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    Mamoru Ichirai
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    Malboro
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    Armorer Lv 70
    This is interesting to see posts from healers and tanks saying they voluntarily let their team members die... When I started playing this game as a tank when the DPS start to overdo it I just took it as a challenge. I just gotta work harder but that's what being a tank is to me.. yes we do have our own play style so of course I can't expect everyone to play like me but I do feel tanks should hold their pride! Which of course means holding hate ... yes of course I understand there are silly people out there who don't cooperate.. I've been there but I speak up. I am not going to stop trying to play my role as The Savior!
    Thank you for reading, that is my 2cent!
    Happy Gaming ✌
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    Gravton's Avatar
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ichirai View Post
    This is interesting to see posts from healers and tanks saying they voluntarily let their team members die... When I started playing this game as a tank when the DPS start to overdo it I just took it as a challenge. I just gotta work harder but that's what being a tank is to me.. yes we do have our own play style so of course I can't expect everyone to play like me but I do feel tanks should hold their pride! Which of course means holding hate ... yes of course I understand there are silly people out there who don't cooperate.. I've been there but I speak up. I am not going to stop trying to play my role as The Savior!
    Thank you for reading, that is my 2cent!
    Happy Gaming ✌
    When I started playing the rule was "You pull it, you tank it." Cause brds were jumping around pulling everything.
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    Lelila38's Avatar
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    Rhia Nara
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    And here you're lucky you never ran into the tank who purposely turns the boss in Ala Mhigo around so it would cleave and kill you, lol.

    On topic, I'm actually pretty happy with the tanks I normally encounter. Apart from the occasional wipe cause pulled too much they usually notice when they lose hate on one mob during aoe and get it right back.
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    AngaratoSvartberg's Avatar
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    Angarato Svartberg
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    blame the current meta :P tank stances are so gimpy and not needed on bosses. sometimes you do lose aggro and ussually i just voke and do my aggro combo. doesnt always do the trick if they keep going balls deep and dont use their anti-aggro abilities. i dont tank as a main tho and i do use grit on trash ussually. i probably just suck. it only happens once in a blue moon tho. oh well
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    JockHarley's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Jock Harley
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 61
    So what is the purpose of the tank if aggro does get lost to dps regardless though?:
    is this like a feels bad man coz the dps arent using their cooldowns and tanks don't want to stance dance again to recover or?:
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