4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

[blindfoldedkaos]

Combat is the backbone...sorry if I worded it wrong

you got me there, if you meant underwater combat and then went with GW as an example, i would of flipped a table. xD

[blindfoldedkaos]

Oh and for those wondering about what the unending coil weapons are gonna be like let me paint a picture for you, from the live letter.

It's final coil look alikes, with a golden glow.
it's stats and ilevel are identical to a genji weapon with a difference.
it's got 3 materia slots.

[Pence]

Oh and for those wondering about what the unending coil weapons are gonna be like let me paint a picture for you, from the live letter.

It's final coil look alikes, with a golden glow.
it's stats and ilevel are identical to a genji weapon with a difference.
it's got 3 materia slots.

We have no idea if the stats are the same as Genji. Some people hope they are, some people hope they are not.

[Alleo]

Just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean that it is invalid. PVP is new PVP if it is mechanically different (which RW very much is), and FFXIV is a theme park MMO intended to give something for everyone.

I am not saying that they only should introduce things I will like but that they said that they will have one less dungeon to create new content. Having another PVP mode is imo not new. Its an already existing content with new "paint". If they truly just meant that we will get old content in new ways (which we did before with all dungeons still there) for the drop of regular content then I would surely be a bit sad because we would just get less content overall.

What would make me playing the game more (and this is only my opinion and no facts or things like that..):

- Instanced housing with daily quests: This way everyone could get a house and depending on their limit you could even buy a house in each zone. People could start small and if they want to they could do quests (or just simply spent lots of gil) to increase the size till everyone has mansions. Anyone that is interested in this part of the game would have a huge playground and a gil sink on top of that. You could have daily or unlimited quests that will give you points if you do them and which you can use to buy some housing stuff and if you dont have money but time you could even buy the increase for the house through that. Everyone being able to have a house would also solve the problem of being forced to sub and log in nearly monthly so people with houses could just take more breaks..and the market for housing items would be way more healthier. This change is also imo needed for the future because with the recent system barely anyone has a house.

-Glamour log/catalog: Simply have a catalog where every single item is shown and where to get them. There is a bit of truth behind the sentence "glamour is the true endgame" and I am quite sure that there would be enough people that would try to complete their glamour book. (And it would free up space) With that you would make lots of old content important again and at least for me this would give me the motivation to run the old stuff again and again since glamour is one big part for me.

-Make more content like the palace which you can try solo or with a group. PotD would be my favorite content right now in the game if I did not get a DC nearly every time I try to solo it. x) Have some more puzzles in it (and please no fates) and more variety between the floors and I am quite sure it would be a long time activity.

In the end this patch would have been already so much more lively if they just added Eureka to it because even if the relic quest is often tedious you will also have stuff to do which you can still do at your own pace and have a nice weapon on top of that.

[blindfoldedkaos]

We have no idea if the stats are the same as Genji. Some people hope they are, some people hope they are not.

"The new weapon’s item level and sub attributes will be the same as the Genji weapons and contain three materia slots."

Taken directly from the official translation of the live letter. found here.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Thread/page2

[Savagelf]

question where did these patch note come for reddits LL fellow. seem to me this fellow isn't away relyable. yes I did start thread ask wether we trust reddits. we see why, how much information does this fellow have that is true how relyable has he been. see to me if some stranger fellow on reddits tell you what to except are they to believed or not. see stranger that people haven't seen the SE patch and they believe some weirdo on reddits. See to me reason not trust said fellow. this fellow could anyone he could Chris Metzin or Yoshi P or the janitor at SE you don't know what the devs put out on this forum what patch notes say.

[Rufalus]

Having another PVP mode is imo not new. Its an already existing content with new "paint".

It is super new. If this is not different enough then by that token Omega Savage and kojin beast tribe quests are the same as each other because they are both PvE, just different paint.

Features 2 teams of 24, each split into 6 light parties. Objective is to destroy the opposing team's core, but it starts out shielded. Can make it vulnerable by destroying towers.

There are multiple machina to pilot with different speeds and capabilities. One is good at KOing players, one is good at destroying towers, and one is super powerful and stopping it at all cost should be the focus of the opposing team if it comes to that.

There are also npc mammets fighting for each side and players can try to defend them to keep that edge in battle.

It's nothing like the 3-team points-based frontlines battles. Different team sizes, different objectives, mounts gameplay.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

If you don't like to just play the game, no ammount of content will help you anyway.

Someone in this thread said: "mh, patchday will be log in, buy a house, do story, run new dungeon +24, do shinryu with static and done

1 day of content \o/"

Soooo.. 3 dungeons, 2x 24 man, 3 ex trials and 50 MSQ will last you 3 days then.

Doesn't sound that reasonable to invest three times the money in a patch just to keep the quickly bored people 1-2 days longer out of the forums.

They are being purposely hyperbolic. Tripling the content as you purposed would better pace people's activities. Yes, I can have everything done in a day or two, but it retains greater longevity because I have additional options. Three dungeons means Expert Roulette has six potential options, three 24-mans keeps each fresh for longer. Now I certainly don't anticipate them ever being able to afford the immense cost and development time for such a task. It does, however, make things feel... emptier. I'm still taking the "wait and see" approach with Eureka and PotD 2.0. If neither prove interesting...

This.

FFXIV isn't designed to keep people entertained 24/7 and it's never going to be able to do that. At the same time, it also isn't going to be able to appease everybody and not every bit of content is going to be custom tailored to any given individual's personal tastes.

I adore the inclusion of swimming as it makes the game world feel more immersive and it's a great addition for role-players. It also sets the stage for more engaging underwater content in the future.

The issue becomes as FFXIV ages, new players replacing veterans will decline. Many players posting do not even take umbrage with occasional lulls, but the current patch offers very little long term content. There's a stark difference between demanding a constant flow of new content and expecting things to last throughout a patch cycle. Right now, the devs are clinging to Ultimate, Ivalice and PvP to hold player attention for fourteen additional weeks. Ultimate appeals to a small portion of the playerbase while PvP has been notoriously underpopulated-- made only worse by piss poor moderation and adjustments that have rendered it a bot riddled mess. On the subject of swimming, people aren't upset with its inclusion, but the fact nothing has been done with it. They sold swimming as a feature and it's little more than aesthetic. I like it for the same reasons you do, however I had hoped they might expand on it further. And no, that does not mean Blitzball.

Put another way, a friend of mine has repeated groaned they've spent so much time on Squadron AI and Perform. Why couldn't those be used for actual content? I can't exactly blame her either, especially seeing just how complex the Squadron stuff looks. Personally, I don't see running around with three bots as "new" and "innovative," even if it does have potential.

[Savagelf]

a expansion is content patch and the patch it cycle through ffxiv is meant be enjoy over long period with it story good thing come to those that wait

[Remedi]

They sold swimming as a feature and it's little more than aesthetic. I like it for the same reasons you do, however I had hoped they might expand on it further. And no, that does not mean Blitzball.

To be fair they didn't do much more than the addition of flying, but that aside if they added more meaning to those zones you can enter only by swimming.....
ATM swimming is just an upgrade to fishing if you think about it, which might be ineteresting to some ppl I guess