4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

[MyaValentine]

considering the fact that my raid team sre still on v4, we will be buying a mansion in shirogane, are looking forward to (Ultimate), love hildybran, love the story, I can;t wait for shinryu EX as is my favorite fight in the game currently and the weapons will help my team, don't give half a pile of **** for dungeons so 1 or 5 makes no difference and I coulnd not be more hype for 24-man raid and upgrades to help us progress YES YES THERE'S HECK OF A LOT STUFF in this patch. Also I'm miles hype for the moba stile pvp seems very fun.

OP and everyone complaining are just spoiled there's no other way around that there's just as many if not more stuff tan 2.x and 3.x we just didn't got relic but it's understandable we are getting a complete new mode/zone going with it is not just your regular boring reused grind like they did back then they are putting the effort and people are complaining because they want more effort at the same amount of time and that's not how it works.

so get overyourself take a deep breath and enjoy this patch that seems to bring lots of fun content for eveyrone not only casuals for the first time since the game launch.

[Moomba33]

It feels a bit small when comparing to 2.1. I'm going to look at the whole patch for both because I don't remember what was held back for 2.1 off hand.

4.1. -New main story quests.
2.1 -New main story quests including a Trial (King Mog HM).

4.1 - Kojin Beast Tribe quests.
2.1 - Sylph and Amalj'aa Beast Tribe quests.

4.1 - Shinryu Ex.
2.1 - Garuda Ex, Titan Ex, Ifrit Ex.

4.1 - Shirogone. House moving and storage added.
2.1 -Housing added (Free Company only) (Mist, Goblet, and Lavender Beds)

4.1 -Rival Wings
2.1- PVP added to the game with the Wolve's Den arena. Renamed The Fold in HW and removed from the game entirely in SB. I'm willing to give this one to 4.1 since the mode didn't last.

4.1 - One dungeon, one 24 man raid.
2.1 - Three dungeons, one 24 man raid.

4.1 - Ultimate Coil, Squadron update, Bard performance, Hildebrand, canals update, qol stuff.
2.1 - Ultima's Bane, Roulettes, aesthetician, Treasure maps, Hildebrand, qol stuff.
How you feel about stuff in this category will likely most strongly colour how you feel about this patch's content. For example someone planning on challenging Ultimate Coil and making up songs on their Bard may feel those are hours of entertainment that are worth more than changing your hair every now and then.

To be fair 2.1 is the biggest patch the game ever had that I can remember so we can't expect everything to live up to it.
2.1 notes if anyone wants to check them out: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

[mooferz]

Just because there are things to do in this game doesn't mean they are engaging or enjoyable.

Yet the content is still there.

OP claims there's nothing in this patch when there clearly is, both for casual and hardcore players. If none of this is enjoyable to them then they're obviously playing the wrong game.

[Alacran]

Always fun to see how fools love to complain about a game they pay for monthly being garbage before the content they say isn't enough has yet to drop... Seriously if it was that much of an issue, why stay? Is it not the height of idiocy to complain about a system that has already been established? Every content announcement is never enough, not challenging enough, not long enough, needs to be nerfed, too long a grind... The ability to understand that not all can be pleased by every decision made by the developers never enters the equation of so many of these self entitled little menaces, one has to wonder what miserable thing they really are in real life... Truly what decadence we must live in that this is what you have to complain about.

[Enla]

How can we actually judge this patch when it /isn't/ even out yet? All we have is text on paper about what will be included, not how long it will take to complete. Likewise we're getting a lot of quality of life upgrades which might seem 'bland' but the population has been asking for, for a long time. Just because we're only getting a raid and a dungeon doesn't mean this patch is lacking in content. It just means it isn't as full of PVE content as you might like.

[Rita1989]

If you keep accepting less content, then they will continue to give less content.

This is arguably the emptiest patch yet and Ultimate was a waste of time, taking development time to design content for 1% of your population while at the same time failing to produce the same level of content and even failing to deliver content like Eureka which was supposed the big thing to keep people logging into the game until 4.2.

I am predicting we are potentially going to have the biggest drop in active server populations yet if they fail to introduce a relic weapon by 4.15

[Pence]

Yet the content is still there.

If you completed the first Mario game the content is still there, you just need to repeat it. It's easy to complete the entire content of a patch during its 3 month duration - even playing super casually. Please elaborate where this content is? A single dungeon which is easily done in 15 minutes, a raid done in 25 minutes?

Emotes? Squads so you can go do dungeons you've already done and can easily do solo?

We'll wait for you to tell us where the content is.

[Airget]

Content with longevity that keeps you on your toes. POTD is the only content that really offered that, Treasure map dungeons were a let down because it's just to much RNG current, you get a map daily or buy it off AH, use it, hope portal spawns, go in portal and then you have to keep hoping you're coin flip always lands on the side you call. It's hard to feel excited about doing those dungeons when you can just as easily spend 4 maps to spawn a portal, go inside, beat first round of mobs, touch door and get booted out. You didn't lose because you're team was bad, you lost because you picked the wrong door, just not fun. I would prefer it if the two doors would enfeeble you or buff you.

Pick Left or Right, You picked left, uh oh you are weighed down for the next room making it harder to dodge AOEs. You picked right? Goodluck! crit rate increased by 25% for the next room.

Why couldn't SE do that instead of a will you be able to continue or not mentality lol.

Other "fun" ones could be Doom, moment you touch door you feel deaths embrace if you don't complete the next room in 5 mins everyone dies lol. Fatigue, TP and MP are reduced by half for next room. Call to Arms, Determination is increased by 15% for the next room. I would feel more excited to do treasure rooms if picking the door was the difference between getting a buff or debuff rather than continuing or getting kicked out.

[Arrius]

If you keep accepting less content, then they will continue to give less content.

This is arguably the emptiest patch yet and Ultimate was a waste of time, taking development time to design content for 1% of your population while at the same time failing to produce the same level of content and even failing to deliver content like Eureka which was supposed the big thing to keep people logging into the game until 4.2.

I am predicting we are potentially going to have the biggest drop in active server populations yet if they fail to introduce a relic weapon by 4.15

I think many are just overreacting from the trailer they saw, which honestly was one of the poorest presentated ones they made to date.
Everything felt rushed in there and didn't had proper showing they used to do in ARR and HW. And that did put off many here as a result, which may or may not be justified until we actually get our hands on the patch notes.

[eaudaemon]

If you keep accepting less content, then they will continue to give less content.

This is arguably the emptiest patch yet and Ultimate was a waste of time, taking development time to design content for 1% of your population while at the same time failing to produce the same level of content and even failing to deliver content like Eureka which was supposed the big thing to keep people logging into the game until 4.2.

I am predicting we are potentially going to have the biggest drop in active server populations yet if they fail to introduce a relic weapon by 4.15

Arguably yes, coz I don't see how you can say all what you just said when the patch isn't even out yet, while spewing numbers not backed with any reaserch (1%? really?).