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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    If you keep accepting less content, then they will continue to give less content.

    This is arguably the emptiest patch yet and Ultimate was a waste of time, taking development time to design content for 1% of your population while at the same time failing to produce the same level of content and even failing to deliver content like Eureka which was supposed the big thing to keep people logging into the game until 4.2.

    I am predicting we are potentially going to have the biggest drop in active server populations yet if they fail to introduce a relic weapon by 4.15
    Arguably yes, coz I don't see how you can say all what you just said when the patch isn't even out yet, while spewing numbers not backed with any reaserch (1%? really?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaudaemon View Post
    Arguably yes, coz I don't see how you can say all what you just said when the patch isn't even out yet, while spewing numbers not backed with any reaserch (1%? really?).
    There is data from past savage teirs and even with a12s being the easiest yet clear rates were between 1-3% on the majority of servers.

    So depending on the difficulty maybe 1/2 of those people will be able to do the Ultimate fight.

    If this was a side project that would be fine but we are losing content for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    There is data from past savage teirs and even with a12s being the easiest yet clear rates were between 1-3% on the majority of servers.

    So depending on the difficulty maybe 1/2 of those people will be able to do the Ultimate fight.

    If this was a side project that would be fine but we are losing content for this.
    And where is this "data" again? Coz I've searched and your the only one that I can find that says it. And what crystal ball did you look into that only 1/2 people would be able to do the Ultimate fight? And what makes you think this is a side project coz the patch isn't out yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaudaemon View Post
    And where is this "data" again? Coz I've searched and your the only one that I can find that says it. And what crystal ball did you look into that only 1/2 people would be able to do the Ultimate fight? And what makes you think this is a side project coz the patch isn't out yet?
    Alexander Creator Savage clear (A12S) rates in last column, this was in March before Echo. It's based on the polling all lodestones for the mount since cheeves can be hidden. It's a good estimate, but of course since only one mount drops a week for raid during lockout, there is obviously groups that don't have all 8/8.

    It is also a good representation oh how disparate NA/EU vs JP is when it comes to high-end raiding.

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    Last edited by technole; 09-30-2017 at 04:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Alexander Creator Savage clear (A12S) rates in last column, this was in March before Echo. It's based on the polling all lodestones for the mount since cheeves can be hidden. It's a good estimate, but of course since only one mount drops a week for raid during lockout, there is obviously groups that don't have all 8/8.

    It is also a good representation oh how disparate NA/EU vs JP is when it comes to high-end raiding.

    Now this is good, at least somebody did their research and not spouting numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaudaemon View Post
    Now this is good, at least somebody did their research and not spouting numbers.
    Except that was taken 6 months after 3.4



    This one is 3.45 and is a more realistic look at the ones who will be able to beat Ultimate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Except that was taken 6 months after 3.4

    This one is 3.45 and is a more realistic look at the ones who will be able to beat Ultimate
    Actually, I'd consider anyone who could clear A12S before echo to be in the running. A lot of mechanical checks were way easier with 240 gear and echo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Except that was taken 6 months after 3.4

    This one is 3.45 and is a more realistic look at the ones who will be able to beat Ultimate
    Hardly, for one this is different content than Ultimate, plus your not considering population size since we had more players since 2016 and your assuming that people are not going to finish it, let alone try.
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