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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer_Cat View Post
    What is unavoidable that hits the pet sooo hard that it needs to get a heal ?!
    Just as an example If Queens Waltz is hitting the whole group u need to heal anyone with an aoe heal or whatever something like this, then your pet get heals too.

    I really would like to know where your pet dies or where your pet needs your attention to heal him.
    V3S, V4S, Susano EX, any fight with a Chimera. Also, soloing fates with Titan-egi, Palace of the Dead solo, Veteran Clan B-Rank Hunts, ARR S and A ranks, HW A-Ranks.

    I really would like to know why you're so against SMN's getting Sustain back or some other sort of pet heal, I'd personally prefer on oGCD.
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    Last edited by Mavrias; 09-28-2017 at 11:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    V3S, V4S, Susano EX, any fight with a Chimera. Also, soloing fates with Titan-egi, Palace of the Dead solo, Veteran Clan B-Rank Hunts, ARR S and A ranks, HW A-Ranks.

    I really would like to know why you're so against SMN's getting Sustain back or some other sort of pet heal, I'd personally prefer on oGCD.
    I did not cleared V3S but i saw some enrages, and if you place your pet on the "ass" your pet stays alife.
    I never lost my pet when i told him where to stand, if i not tell him where to stand he is dead after the dragonphase.
    I never lost my pet in Susano EX im sorry but how you do this.

    Im agains sustain cause i dont see any reason in it.

    I can record you any run of susano as long as i tell my pet not to stand in front of susano it is fine, i can make videos of V3S too, soloing fates with titan thats something where I agree thats not perfect, but on the others i need to say again ... HOW
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    Last edited by Officer_Cat; 09-28-2017 at 11:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer_Cat View Post
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    Depending on how the MT moves for lightning markers, Ifrit will be hit with them fairly often. In O3S along with dragon phase, ifrit can be hit with books and magic hammers in library as well as reaper charges. Again, dependent on where your tank is positioning the boss. Anything where you want Titan to tank for you (he needs to be buffed in general) so again, PoTD, soloing B, A, and S tank hunts, he will be taking constant damage, and likely die, because no heal. Chimeras Ifrit will pretty much always be hit by Ram's voice unless you want to take the dps loss of constantly moving him all the time forever, he is going to get hit.

    If you don't see a reason for it, then don't use it, but a lot of people clearly do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Depending on how the MT moves for lightning markers, Ifrit will be hit with them fairly often. In O3S along with dragon phase, ifrit can be hit with books and magic hammers in library as well as reaper charges.
    If you don't see a reason for it, then don't use it, but a lot of people clearly do.
    Thats things where you can move your pet
    Adjusting, and you are fine.

    Sustain makes Summoner life way to easy in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer_Cat View Post
    Thats things where you can move your pet
    Adjusting, and you are fine.

    Sustain makes Summoner life way to easy in my eyes.
    Moving ifrit like that is a dps loss. Full stop. That's a ruin 2, instead of a ruin 1/3/4, and then there's potentially having to move him off the boss entirely, which is another dps loss because he only attacks from melee range. That's even if you can actually manage to move him in the span of the GCD so you're not clipping.

    There's a difference between artificial difficulty and actual complexity. Summoner is clunky enough without constantly repositioning your pet. Again, if you feel sustain makes things "too easy" then don't use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Moving ifrit like that is a dps loss. Full stop. That's a ruin 2, instead of a ruin 1/3/4, and then there's potentially having to move him off the boss entirely, which is another dps loss because he only attacks from melee range. That's even if you can actually manage to move him in the span of the GCD so you're not clipping.

    There's a difference between artificial difficulty and actual complexity. Summoner is clunky enough without constantly repositioning your pet. Again, if you feel sustain makes things "too easy" then don't use it.
    not to mention 95% of the time, your pet DOESNT move until AFTER it gets hit
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