Sch does not feel like sch...

[AiharaMizuki]

With what a crit Aldo can do, don't expect that to happen without something else changing.

Not really expecting that. It's just one of the two things that I can think of that are remotely possible to be subjected to change (I do think Dissipation needs SOME changes)

[era1Ne]

Everything!

The problem with SCH is that whilst the fairy abilities were strong, they were also unresponsive and erratic in use mostly due to the speed with which the AI chooses an auto embrace target coupled with how sketchy pet queueing can be at times.

The developer should really work on the responsiveness of the fairys. Maybe they could have made embrace an instant cast with an 2-3 sec cd to solve the issue. While not making embrace op.

IMHO the best way to allow the SCH to be a more pet centric job again, is to actually get rid of the pet from a technical standpoint. Whilst it sounds awful, I think it actually opens up some very interesting possibilities. This is something I should probably explain in a separate post as it won't be brief

I am looking forward to it, if it doesn't take to much time for you

The only change I think SCH really needs right now is Dissipation. They don't even need to change a lot, add maybe a Insta-resummon after the 30s Dissipation buff would be good enough. The MP-cost nerf on Adlo and Succor may be a bit overkill? Could reduce it to match Cure II and Medica.

I would change a few things. Those are probably the biggest 3 for me...

• Make selene (more) useful. Maybe she could slighty reduce your cd timer and an slightly stronger embrace.
• change dissipation. For example as you said, let the fairy re-summon after the buff is gone. Or*
• Work on fairy responsiveness

* I thought about this as i was writing the post. Maybe dissi could switch eos for selene and give us three stacks. That way we would only have to worry about one fairy and could summon "new selene" with an (almost completely) new skill set for a few seconds during emergency situations for example. After dissi and selene dissapear, eos gets summoned again.

[AiharaMizuki]

* I thought about this as i was writing the post. Maybe dissi could switch eos for selene and give us three stacks. That way we would only have to worry about one fairy and could summon "new selene" with an (almost completely) new skill set for a few seconds during emergency situations for example. After dissi and selene dissapear, eos gets summoned again.

That could work. Might have to remove the healing boost from Dissipation since we're not "losing" our Fairy for the duration.

[Kabzy]

The fairy was to strong in Heavensward and some scholar were even able to almost solo heal A9-10 savage with the fairy alone. This was imo just a bit to much.

It's strong in dungeons, when you can basically full time DPS and never heal. But in raids that would only ever be the case when you're massively overgeared. Plus taking into account player skill. A Nocturnal AST solo healed A3S back in the day when it was relevant, I'm pretty sure no one cried for nerfs back then given the state of the job.

I would like the Faerie to be buffed. Jobs shouldn't be balanced around casual content, and as it stands, having Embrace only be marginally better than a Regen tick is pathetic. Given how unreliable the Faerie's responsiveness can be, I'd rather just cast a Regen style move. I believe SCH is fine, but could definitely do with a rework. If they invest time in the job, it would be very nice if they made it more pet focused and actually sorted out the AI.

[Estelle9lives]

I think SCH is perfectly fine for the most part. A few points:

- Even if the fairy decides to use an Embrace before the action you pressed, this hardly has any effect on the actual use of the skill. The most timing sensitive pet action being Fey Covenant, and it lasts a whooping 20s. You can easily plan around a possible small delay and activate it accordingly, as it's generally used to mitigate hard hitting raid busters.
- They shouldn't buff fairy's Embrace at all. It was ridiculously strong in HW. People need to realize you essentialy get a permanent regen bot on top of your own shields and healing, which is a luxury Noct AST doesn't have.
- SCH's single target DPS and Chain Strategem makes it incredibly valuable on teams that want to use a meta comp.
- To op, deploy E4E was absolutely useless. The fact you needed to get hit with a physical attack to proc it made it worthless in any relevant content. Heck, just worthless anywhere in general.

Now one thing I would definitely change is the mana cost for Succor and Adlo, specially Succor. Being such a piddly heal/shield, there' absolutely no reason to cost that much mana. SCH doesn't tend to suffer from mana issues as much as AST (with Aetherflow and Energy Drain being a thing), but the costs are indeed a bit much.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

They NEED to do a major overhaul on Dissipation. That ability has been trash since we got it. It conflicts with almost everything else in our tool kit, including itself.

It's this emergency button to be able to use more aether stacks, but looks at it benefits and how it contradicts itself.

1. Dissipation can provide more healing with use of aether stack abilities, but you lose healing because no fairy, but it gives a buff to compensate, but it doesn't effect the heals that disapation is giving you access too.

2. Dissipation can help MP management with those mp free aether heals, but you need to invest a lot of mp to bring fairy back after.

Continued below because of asinine character limit and mobile usage.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

3. It\\\\'s an emergency button, but if group is in an emergency I\\\\'ll most likely need my Swiftcast to raise someone, nope you need that to get the fairy back, oh to make the most out of quickened aetherflow benefit with Dissipation the timing of Dissipation has to be right after you used aetherflow then burned the stacks as fast as you can or the CD reduction will go wasted on some of the stacks. So you need to plan to make the most out of an emergency button.

4. It can quicken my growth of my fairy guage, but the fairy is gone and not coming back.

It\\\\'s the wotst designed ability ever.

[AiharaMizuki]

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Except people don't use it as an emergency button. It's used to push out more dps via Energy Drain/Bane or OGCD heals instead of GCD heals. I do agree it's not the best skill even back when it was new in HW but calling it the worst or trash is a bit of an overstatement.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Except people don't use it as an emergency button. It's used to push out more dps via Energy Drain/Bane or OGCD heals instead of GCD heals. I do agree it's not the best skill even back when it was new in HW but calling it the worst or trash is a bit of an overstatement.

If that is the point then there is another contradiction, both possible uses you mentioned require not using our gcd heals, so why does it buff them. It should give some kind of damage buff if that is what they intended, which I don't believe for a second.

[AiharaMizuki]

If that is the point then there is another contradiction, both possible uses you mentioned require not using our gcd heals, so why does it buff them. It should give some kind of damage buff if that is what they intended, which I don't believe for a second.

Not saying it does not need a rework, I even had a bit of a discussion about it in this very thread. I'm just pointing out calling it trash or the worst skill designed is a bit of an overstatement. It is underwhelming and not very synergistic right now, true. There are ways to use it despite not being the "intended" way of using it. Indom and Lustrate are still very good healing skills, does not matter if they are not buffed by Dissipation. Energy Drain into recovering MP for more GCD heals to recover from a raid-wipe or more raises is also fine.

If there's more than 1 deaths (2 for 8-man content), you will have to end up hard-casting either a raise or a summon (if you use Dissipation). Which is why I myself suggested that they AT LEAST give us an insta-summon after Dissipation because of how necessary Swiftcast is to resummon our Fairy.