Questions abour RDM rotations. (Aoe and single target)

[Niraves]

Your Verfire and Verstone procs last for quite a while, so you don't have to keep spamming one element if you keep getting procs for it but not the other. Just switch back and forth from Black Magic to White Magic. Basically you want to keep your mana even as much as possible so you don't end up with an imbalanced mana bar.

And AoE is easy, its just like Erryk said. It felt weird to me at first too, but you get used to it.

Good luck, and have fun with Red Mage!

[Snow_Princess]

Your Verfire and Verstone procs last for quite a while, so you don't have to keep spamming one element if you keep getting procs for it but not the other. Just switch back and forth from Black Magic to White Magic. Basically you want to keep your mana even as much as possible so you don't end up with an imbalanced mana bar.

And AoE is easy, its just like Erryk said. It felt weird to me at first too, but you get used to it.

Good luck, and have fun with Red Mage!

You are not understanding what I meant. I was talking about when I have procs for both, so if I use the other, I have no duel cast/ proc for the other element.

[Miste]

You are not understanding what I meant. I was talking about when I have procs for both, so if I use the other, I have no duel cast/ proc for the other element.

You don't need dualcast for Verfire or Verstone, if that is what you meant? Their cast time is normal and not extremely long like Veraero and Verthunder.

Basically consider a proc of Verfire and Verstone like you would Jolt, hard cast it and use the dualcast you get from it on Verthunder or Veraero. If you have both proc up at same time you can hard cast one and instant cast the second if you feel like it.

I am no RDM expert, I just know basic rotation and I do pretty good on it so idk if this is the best optimal but its a good start.

[Snow_Princess]

You don't need dualcast for Verfire or Verstone, if that is what you meant? Their cast time is normal and not extremely long like Veraero and Verthunder.
Basically consider a proc of Verfire and Verstone like you would Jolt, hard cast it and use the dualcast you get from it on Verthunder or Veraero. If you have both proc up at same time you can hard cast one and instant cast the second if you feel like it.

I am no RDM expert, I just know basic rotation and I do pretty good on it so idk if this is the best optimal but its a good start.

No.
Say I am doing a rotation, and I end up having both procs. I use one and keep needing to stick to that element because the other is proced already. If it gets too large, then I either, have to duel cast the other proc, so now I am suck with a proc with the higher element of what I can't use because its too high, or have no duel cast because I was forced to use it on the lower one. So i am confused on what to do in those situations unless people are telling me to eat the less optional situation.

[Cenerae]

No.
Say I am doing a rotation, and I end up having both procs. I use one and keep needing to stick to that element because the other is proced already. If it gets too large, then I either, have to duel cast the other proc, so now I am suck with a proc with the higher element of what I can't use because its too high, or have no duel cast because I was forced to use it on the lower one. So i am confused on what to do in those situations unless people are telling me to eat the less optional situation.

If say, you have a verfire ready but your black mana is too high, just jolt > veraero to catch it back up. You have 30 seconds to spend that verfire, so you can afford to do a few cycles of jolt > veraero to bring your white mana back in line.

[Snow_Princess]

If say, you have a verfire ready but your black mana is too high, just jolt > veraero to catch it back up. You have 30 seconds to spend that verfire, so you can afford to do a few cycles of jolt > veraero to bring your white mana back in line.

So i spend the duel cast on stone? just feels weird.

What about, if they are both proc, and I have too much of one, what about doing duel cast aero (even though I have stone triggered already) so i am not forced to go to jolt?

[Mxhunter]

No.
Say I am doing a rotation, and I end up having both procs. I use one and keep needing to stick to that element because the other is proced already. If it gets too large, then I either, have to duel cast the other proc, so now I am suck with a proc with the higher element of what I can't use because its too high, or have no duel cast because I was forced to use it on the lower one. So i am confused on what to do in those situations unless people are telling me to eat the less optional situation.

so if say you have more than 30 of black magic and the verfire proc is up, you have a couple of options. You can either just use jolt and then dualcast veraero and then back to verfire, use impact if it is up and dual cast veraero, then back to verfire (verfire & verstone have a 20 second timer) or if you have it on your hot bar use quickcast + veraero then back to verfire. doing this will jump your white magic up so that when you use verfire you won't exceed the 30pt limit. If you have acceleration up then you should definity use that before casting veraero or verthunder as it will instantly proc verstone or verfire.

if both Verfire and Verstone are up and you are concerned with getting unbalanced then I suggest you use verfire>verthunder>verstone>vaero or similar combination this will keep you balanced and if verfire doesn't proc after verthunder use acceleration before you use veraero so you can then go back to verstone>verthunder rotation of switching between black and white mana. If nothing procs then if Impact is up use that then pick either veraero or verthunder. Below is a good little chart to help with the rotation as a whole:

http://i.imgur.com/rrGZKyG.png

[Avatre]

No.
Say I am doing a rotation, and I end up having both procs. I use one and keep needing to stick to that element because the other is proced already. If it gets too large, then I either, have to duel cast the other proc, so now I am suck with a proc with the higher element of what I can't use because its too high, or have no duel cast because I was forced to use it on the lower one. So i am confused on what to do in those situations unless people are telling me to eat the less optional situation.

If you have both procd and ready to go, I would(and do) go something like this: hard cast VerFire>dual cast VerThunder>hard cast VerAero>dual cast VerStone>repeat if procs happen.

It keeps them both around the same, if one procs and the other doesn't, use dual cast on the other one. You don't HAVE to go VerFire>VerThunder(or VerStone>VerAero), you can go hard cast VerFire>dual cast VerAero, thus keeping them balanced in this way. And if neither of them proc, Jolt>whichever one is lower.