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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Yes, pure healers are bad players.
    Well then easy answer : elitists are bad players. Always trying to emulate things that they obviously aren't capable of doing, and not making any effort to correct that since they use advanced gameplay and already considers themselves de-facto good players.

    Jolly : And how does healing take all the healer's concentration if there is nothing to heal?
    May be you are able to make a split decision in less than a tenth of a second...
    Some people will need more time... A GCD is 2.5 second, which can be more than enough for you, but way too quick for others.
    Simple example : the brake reaction time varies from people to people : less than 1 second for some and up to 3.5 second for others...
    And I saw your list... even mentionned it as some of the offending comments made...

    Taika : It's not me that read too much into what you're saying... It's you who isn't careful enough in the way you adress to people. Though it may seem for you like you're not rude or anything, I'm not in front of you, I can't see your facial expressions, etc... All I have are your words... That's why we have emotes in written language...

    I think the real problem here is that you guys consider everything from your own POV... not from other people's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Jolly : And how does healing take all the healer's concentration if there is nothing to heal?
    May be you are able to make a split decision in less than a tenth of a second...
    I'm pretty sure that's a perfect example of reading between the lines/only seeing what you want to see, because the quote continues with: "If they completely freeze for a solid 10 seconds to do nothing?"

    Ten seconds, my friend... Ten seconds, not tenth of a second.

    And my point of view has little to do with this, let me get my good friend Master of Magic here and see what she thinks:


    That's pretty much it in a nutshell, and that's all I'm asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    Ten seconds, my friend... Ten seconds, not tenth of a second.
    Yes, even ten seconds ! 4 whole GCD !
    Easy example : my first run of brayflox : I was equipped with aetherial/vendor gear, haven't yet gotten the full mage set that drops there.
    After the first wipe on the last boss, I spent zero time DPSing... because I ran out of mana DPSing on the first try, causing the wipe.
    And that meant sometimes spending quite some time, 10 sec or more, doing absolutely nothing : just waiting for my mana to resplenish.
    Looking back now, having esuna, SoS mastered, I do feel that I really sucked back then... even tried running a second WHM (Zaza Hya) just to see how I would do in the same conditions, just for the fun.
    But after that first clear, I was really feeling satisfied, and really felt I did do my job the best I could... when I now know for sure I could've definitely done better...
    But what if someone in the group told me I couldve contributed to DPS to make things go down faster ?
    Though I wouldnt, others would've simply quit healing.

    The problem with the way you are presenting things, is that you dont seem to really make a difference between begginers and leechers.
    Some of you get offended when called elitists : same thing for beginners. Don't accuse newbies of systematically being bad, when they actually give their best.
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    Last edited by Moogly; 09-20-2017 at 03:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    I think the real problem here is that you guys consider everything from your own POV... not from other people's
    I didn't ask anything about that, what are you answering? Elitists are totally irrelevant to this discussion.
    Also, you do realize that you're basically saying that there are bad players and you simply refuse to define them as such, right?

    May be you are able to make a split decision in less than a tenth of a second...
    Some people will need more time...
    the brake reaction time varies from people to people
    So, a healer that needs 5 seconds to react to incoming damage shouldn't be called a bad healer because...? Of course this hypothetical healer will never be able to clear any kind of savage raid, so we shouldn't call it a bad healer for what reason exactly?
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    Last edited by Lastelli; 09-20-2017 at 02:45 AM.