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[plasmacutter]

Aoe heal kit needs an overhaul from a fluidity perspective

with the exception of tank healing..
If you're casting shields, you anticipate damage: healing is redundant
If you're casting heals, you're healing damage already received: Shielding is redundant

Given this, I recommend the following:
Succor now straight heal
Indom now straight shield (still capable of critical, even if potency needs adjustment - SCH is crit-centric)


I keep reading 3 things all over threads like this:
1 - Stormblood is supposed to remove complexity
2 - Adlo's mana cost is too high for what it does
3 - Faerie healing is difficult to balance

With this in mind, and with the suggested stream-lining above:
1 - Remove deployment tactics.
2 - restore pre-SB Adlo cost ratios
3 - sacred soil dmg reduction increased from 10% to 20%

If these changes make sch too powerful replace embrace w/ a strong shield that the faerie only applies when a target drops under 21% HP @ 60-120s cd

[inhaledcorn]

Aoe heal kit needs an overhaul from a fluidity perspective

with the exception of tank healing..
If you're casting shields, you anticipate damage: healing is redundant
If you're casting heals, you're healing damage already received: Shielding is redundant

Given this, I recommend the following:
Succor now straight heal
Indom now straight shield (still capable of critical, even if potency needs adjustment - SCH is crit-centric)


I keep reading 3 things all over threads like this:
1 - Stormblood is supposed to remove complexity
2 - Adlo's mana cost is too high for what it does
3 - Faerie healing is difficult to balance

With this in mind, and with the suggested stream-lining above:
1 - Remove deployment tactics.
2 - restore pre-SB Adlo cost ratios
3 - sacred soil dmg reduction increased from 10% to 20%

If these changes make sch too powerful replace embrace w/ a strong shield that the faerie only applies when a target drops under 21% HP @ 60-120s cd

Alternatively, instead of removing Deployment and getting rid of our oGCD AoE heal (which the other two jobs have, btw), why not make Deployment Tactics make the next Adlo/Succor apply shields?

[Jollyy5]

I feel the SCH skills themselves are fine as they are for the most part, but the insane mana cost of some of the skills such as Adlo and Succor, is just too much, mostly in AoE situations.

I'm at item level of 308 if I recall correctly and managed to reach high DPS briefly thanks to Miasma II spam, but darn if it wasn't taxing on mana, even with Lucid Dreaming, Aetherflow and Energy Drain, leaving me with very few options to keep the tank alive.

As far as I'm aware, SE doesn't much care about balancing classes according to data from dungeons, but rather from raids such as Omega Savage, which would be fine otherwise if we didn't spend roughly 70% of playtime in dungeons.

Also..

Words...

If they were to convert some healing spells into straight up shields and vice versa, I'd rather have Succor for shields and Indom as a heal. I have time to apply shields, and they'd linger for a good while, but if people are dying I need them healed NOW.

[Teraluna]

I feel the SCH skills themselves are fine as they are for the most part, but the insane mana cost of some of the skills such as Adlo and Succor, is just too much, mostly in AoE situations.

I'm at item level of 308 if I recall correctly and managed to reach high DPS briefly thanks to Miasma II spam, but darn if it wasn't taxing on mana, even with Lucid Dreaming, Aetherflow and Energy Drain, leaving me with very few options to keep the tank alive.

As far as I'm aware, SE doesn't much care about balancing classes according to data from dungeons, but rather from raids such as Omega Savage, which would be fine otherwise if we didn't spend roughly 70% of playtime in dungeons.

Also..


If they were to convert some healing spells into straight up shields and vice versa, I'd rather have Succor for shields and Indom as a heal. I have time to apply shields, and they'd linger for a good while, but if people are dying I need them healed NOW.

I politely suggest when judging a skill we should look at all the elements. So for things like Adlo and Succor this includes time, effect and cost.
Based on this I'd say that these are not fine.
It's just another way of viewing things, but I think it's important to give the first line verdict based on all aspects

[Jollyy5]

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I essentially said that Adlo/Succor would be fine if they weren't so expensive, didn't I? Unless that's not what you meant.

Anyway, I can believe that Scholars are fine in raids, I can't recall having any serious problems in Susano/Lakshmi EX, but I'd like to see some quality of life improvements in my day to day stuff such as dungeons, where I'd love nothing more than having the tank pulling half the dungeon while being able to support such shenanigans as a Scholar without it being too stressful and unreliable.

*cough* WHM Holy stunlock/Assize/Benediction/Thin Air *cough*

[Teraluna]

I essentially said that Adlo/Succor would be fine if they weren't so expensive, didn't I? Unless that's not what you meant.

Anyway, I can believe that Scholars are fine in raids, I can't recall having any serious problems in Susano/Lakshmi EX, but I'd like to see some quality of life improvements in my day to day stuff such as dungeons, where I'd love nothing more than having the tank pulling half the dungeon while being able to support such shenanigans as a Scholar without it being too stressful and unreliable.

*cough* WHM Holy stunlock/Assize/Benediction/Thin Air *cough*

Since I'm currently maining a whm - I like your cough