Scholar Feedback

[technole]

Scholar benefits from the amount of free healing available in-progression, it's just merely aligning those cool downs where they can best be-used on-cooldown to get most uses while also supplementing the other healer. When you think of about the thought of getting perhaps nine whispering dawns in a fight or more, and how many deployments possible, at little cost. Fey Illumination can easily be seen as an double healer ilvl boost just like Largesse is for each healer for mechanical heals. You'd be surprised how much you can recover when things go south just because Eos's heavy lifting.

And this is the problem of course.
Because they made Ast a sort of magpie build, mimicking or direct copying existing skills, there is this continual comparison.
As raids only need two of the three, then one will always be seen to be at the back of the queue.

Incorrect. As I said before several times, all three healers have the most relatively balanced clear rates in savage, since the introduction of Astrologian. It hasn't been this good, ever.

All three healers were represented in the first three O4S clears. So saying one job is at the back of the bus in-progression is a gross mistatement.

[Risvertasashi]

Incorrect. As I said before several times, all three healers have the most relatively balanced clear rates in savage, since the introduction of Astrologian. It hasn't been this good, ever.

All three healers were represented in the first three O4S clears. So saying one job is at the back of the bus in-progression is a gross mistatement.

And SE will need to tread very carefully to maintain this, as farming groups are already leaning towards an AST+SCH preference once more. (I'm OK with all 3 healers have representation in progression... just I don't want that to disappear).

[RyuDragnier]

And this is the problem of course.
Because they made Ast a sort of magpie build, mimicking or direct copying existing skills, there is this continual comparison.
As raids only need two of the three, then one will always be seen to be at the back of the queue.
Said it before, Ast should have been a substantially different kind of healer - maybe a sword and board melee type, to really get away from the original two.

I'm rather surprised looking back that they didn't use the cards as their primary healing mechanic. Stock a card, it effects the next 5/10 Aspected casts, each card effecting it in a different way. It makes the class unique, since your Aspected casts would be completely different depending on what you draw and stock for it.

[Lastelli]

I'm rather surprised looking back that they didn't use the cards as their primary healing mechanic. Stock a card, it effects the next 5/10 Aspected casts, each card effecting it in a different way. It makes the class unique, since your Aspected casts would be completely different depending on what you draw and stock for it.

RNG healing? That's a terrible idea...

[technole]

Well, if you want to look at all the elements, where are you "spamming" Succor in a dungeon? Cause there isn't a single place that should be happening. You should be using Indom for quick AoE heal and because it's Aetherflow to build the fairy gauge between pulls. Even pre-70 before the gauge, this should be standard practice. Before Indom, you'd use Succor every now and then for AoE along with Whispering Dawn but it's cost is way less at those levels to compensate not having Indom.

Compare to say the savage fight where Succor is used the most, around 30-50x in O4 savage, Neo ExDeath. But that's nearly a 13 minute fight and lots of Aetherflow uses and Lucid to keep MP going. You aren't spamming it there either, and you also use Indom quite a bit for quick-ups. For Almagest DoT you are assisting the regen healer to mitigate the first hits and then re-apply to help as-needed for mechanics like delta attacks and flares. For Neverwhere and last phase, you help the regen healer every few GCDs as-needed. So they don't run out of MP using Cure III or Helios on their own.

Ideally Scholar should be using its Aetherflow skills aggressively otherwise you are not building the fairy gauge which is the bread-and-butter regen for the biggest level 70 dungeon pulls you can do in this game. If you keep manual healing too much you basically are locking out the best tools of your kit, and that is faster MP regeneration with Quickened Aetherflow and use of fairy tether.

You should never spam Adlo either, in-fact you should never be casting it back-to-back on the same target. As the 2nd Adlo can apply before the first shield even applies, so you practically wasted the cost. It should be used sporadically, and in a dungeon setting in a sense it's a supplemental tank cooldown on-top of Whispering Dawn, force embrace, and/or Lustrate. It should not be a spam heal.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Incorrect. As I said before several times, all three healers have the most relatively balanced clear rates in savage, since the introduction of Astrologian. It hasn't been this good, ever.

All three healers were represented in the first three O4S clears. So saying one job is at the back of the bus in-progression is a gross mistatement.

It's not that they can't do it. It's that the group with the scholar probably struggled a lot more. With a scholar in the group you need that perfect run to get some bosses during progression. It's like this boss's mechanics require x amount of healing if done right. And when in progression not optimally geared yet, scholar can do x+2% and the other two can do x+15% . It's just a lot more wiggle room. Especially when in progression where mistakes can happen that extra possible healing matters. It's a QOL changes needed more than anything. Cause while we can do it it's just harder for us and our groups.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

I have a bit more complaints about ability meshing.

I have a problem with Deployment. It just doesn't do enough, and yes I know it's a strong ability as is, but there is something i don't like about it. So we have DT and it only works with one of our buffs, It used to be 2 but now that is a role skill but it's still not one of our buffs anymore. I would like deploy to work with any of our buffs, and of course I mean it should function with Excog. I know at current it would be over powered like that but these are things that we need to make our abilities mesh with each other better.

I want this mainly because I see a class like AST, which they have two abilities that extend the duration of buffs they have on players. These abilities if they followed rules like ours would either work solely on their card, or the buffs given by their aspected moves, but not both. That's not what happens though, those moves work with any buffs a AST can give. Even strong CDs like Collective Unconsciousness and Synestry get extended. This is proper meshing of a jobs moves. I don't know why we have so many abilities that look like they should work together but don't. Proper meshing of our moves would mean Deploy would work with Excog, Bane would work with Chain Strategem, and rouse would work with Aetherpact.

[Hanayumi]

I have a problem with Deployment. It just doesn't do enough, and yes I know it's a strong ability as is, but there is something i don't like about it.

Yeah I've definitely noticed myself using deployment tactics just way less than I use to. Was thinking why not make deployment tactics a galvanize shield upgrader instead. Similar to emergency tactics, use it before casting adlo or succor and it can add an additional 50% of the heal to the shield or something.
Example:
Deployment+Adlo, 6k heal=6k+3k(50% of heal)=9,000 shield
Deployment+Crit Adlo, 9k heal=9k(2x)+4.5k(50% of heal)=22,500 shield
It would also work with succor making bit more worth while since it doesnt have the 2x crit bonus anyway, so yeah I would definitely enjoy using something like this instead, getting a lot more out of sch's shielding potential while helping with the rngness of adlo.

[Riyshn]

I think I would like to see Deployment Tactics become a mirror of Emergency Tactics, where it converts the next heal into a Galvanize shield. Not really sure if it should only work with Adlo/Succor, or specifically not work with them (because of Galvanize just overwriting itself) and functionally be a modifier on the AE heals.

[Dragonhand]

Deployment and the pet dissipation spell are just useless.
No way in hell I wanna kill my pet, it's the only thing that makes my class diferente, and the pros are way lower then the cons. 3 extra stacks won't do much for me because the most important spells, have CDs.
And deployment for Eye? Only the tank realy needs it, the boss isn't hitting other players for most part, and when it does, I should be focused on bringing ppl back up on HP.

IF Exo would work with deployment, then, suddenly, Sch would be great at recovering a group from massive AOEs.
Instead of kill our pet, the skill could swap the pet instantly, on the fly. That would be more interesting.