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    shape's Avatar
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    Shape Esteed
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    To be honest outside of extreme and savage content I don't really care if the healer aids with dps or not. Worst case scenario I may have to pull one pack less during chain pulls in DF, Id still be pulling 2 packs minimum so who cares.

    Tanks are not pushed to stance dance especially in DF, but that does not mean we shouldn't, if the healer wants to only heal us tanks can just go out of tank stance sooner. Its kind of disgusting tanks can stay in tank stance the whole run and receive no grief.


    From the man himself;
    Yoshida: Yes. Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well. For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

    The only reason healers are expected to also do dmg for the types of content yoshida mentions is to speed up the kill time.
    Will this stupid debate, ever do or don't ever end... Probably not in my lifetime.
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    Last edited by shape; 09-10-2017 at 05:15 PM.

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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shape View Post
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    And you've got personal experience to back this up right? (Spoiler: I suspect you don't) =(

    If I remember correctly, that quote was a response to the salt that was being thrown around over Gordias' DPS checks. It was also patently wrong once you factored in the cheese strat required to actually kill A4S.

    Blindly spouting Yoshida quotes from 2 years ago that have no bearing on content today is just another way to perpetuate this stupid discussion tbh.

    I can tell you first hand from my own experience that there are many occasions during raid progression in this game where healer DPS is required to beat enrage or push an important mechanic. This is just how it is.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 09-11-2017 at 06:10 AM.
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