Just another thread asking for in-game parsing for ps4 users

[NinjaTaru72]

You quote rules but you willingly admit you're prepared to file a bad report just on a feel. Meaning someone could raid with you and just be like "hey, I don't think you did good there" and--just because you feel like it--report them for parse use because it sounded like they were using one.

If you read my other post you'd see I explained they have to say something that makes it seem like they are using one.

If they say something that Makes it seem like they are using one yes, I'll gladly file a report. If its false I'm sorry, but oh well, I'd rather file a report against someone who could be using one and potentially abusing players.

Now if they say something like "hey, I noticed your using this move before or after this other move, of you switched it you'd do more damage." then no, I won't report something genuinely helpful sounding like that.

[akaneakki]

Now if they say something like "hey, I noticed your using this move before or after this other move, of you switched it you'd do more damage." then no, I won't report something genuinely helpful sounding like that.

Honestly, you shot yourself on the foot after the very first post. Not only does it show bad manners but also goes againts what you say ''harrasment'' You call parsing a harrasment, pretty much saying a gun kills people when it's actually the person who triggers it. A parser isn't bad, it depends on a whole on the person who use it.
And legit I see more harrasment of people who proclaim they can have clears because they have the right. You have no right to clear any content with bad attitude againts team mates nor do you have right to drag down 3-7 and 23 people because you simply can't pick up yyour own fight to improve.

You report people even when someone wil say someone is doing low dps, you can even notice that WITHOUT a parser, not always but some cases. You gonna fill in reports about ps4 players having an opinion too? I don't care if you gonna report people because eventually they will get tired of the false reports and you need to just stick with it honestly.

[SenorPatty]

If you read my other post you'd see I explained they have to say something that makes it seem like they are using one.

If they say something that Makes it seem like they are using one yes, I'll gladly file a report. If its false I'm sorry, but oh well, I'd rather file a report against someone who could be using one and potentially abusing players.

Now if they say something like "hey, I noticed your using this move before or after this other move, of you switched it you'd do more damage." then no, I won't report something genuinely helpful sounding like that.

Do you even read what you write? No, better yet, do you even comprehend what you write?

You're literally saying in that second line of yours that if it sounds like one, you'll report them and if they aren't using one anyways, too bad so sad.

As if the GM who's going to investigate your report is gonna be like "Oh well, clearly this player was acting cautiously by reporting just on something that sounded (YOUR WORDS, MIND YOU) like the other one was using a parser."


"Make it seem" is not good enough. Ugh!

If you cannot understand or won't understand that filing false reports against players is against the ToS, especially without PROPER chat log evidence, then I truly hope you do get flagged permanently as a report abuser.

I don't care who hurt you so bad with parser in the past; you don't knight templar your way into following the rules and expect SE to have your back.

[akaneakki]

I don't care who hurt you so bad with parser in the past; you don't knight templar your way into following the rules and expect SE to have your back.

/thread lol.

[Altena]

Look, I am pro-parser, like everyone except the two (maybe three?) people I see in this thread.

There are a large number of benefits to knowing your own performance. I have literally never seen someone directly berate another player because of their DPS.
I see more people get harassed for under-performing by failing mechanics etc rather than anyone talking numbers.
This may be in part due to the hefty anti-harassment policy that SE run, however that policy wouldn't change as harassment is still against ToS.

I do however understand SE's stance on the matter, however I think it actually goes beyond the harassment issue (which I haven't personally experienced or seen myself).
I think a part of it is also for security reasons.. If they change their policy to "yes you are allowed parsers and you can talk about them" then they are basically accepting third party application use in some way - which opens them up to risk for malicious applications. Once they start saying yes to third party apps, it blurrs the lines between what is an accepted app and what is against ToS. The "no third party apps at all" policy is partly there to reduce their own risk for malicious attempts of their customer's computers, and to avoid blurring the lines between parsers and applications such as fully automated bots..

If its false I'm sorry, but oh well, I'd rather file a report against someone who could be using one and potentially abusing players.

Wow, just wow.

You're shouting the old saying "guilty until proven innocent".

Might as well report your best in-game friend, because they might be using one too.
Who knows right? I mean they haven't proven innocence.

Fun fact - in this case, you can only prove guilt, you can't prove innocence. So unless you have absolute grounds that someone is running a parser such as a screenshot of their desktop, then you're jumping the gun quite a bit there.

Start assuming innocence unless proven guilty - and instead, wait for actual harassment and report them on that instead.

While some people may use it "for good" more games than not it's seemed to be a cause for issue. I just wish SE would make up their mind...the whole "don't ask/tell" thing is annoyign imo. Either fully disallow it and ban people, or allow it and say that's that.

I think something that would make a settlement between both parts (from my perspective) would be to make a world dedicated to people who want to use/have parsers used on them.

Wanna parse you and/or others? Transfer to this world(or even 2 or 3 worlds depending on population.

Allow it there. And only have party finder/duty finder work for that world(s) . That way parsers can stay in there little area, and non parsers can be in our area. Lol.

It's about the best solution for both groups imo

Haha this is a hilarious "solution"...

You do realise that the "non-parser" worlds would be seemingly empty right?
I am going to be realistic here.. I know many more people who use and/or accept parsers as a beneficial tool, than those that despise / are against them.

Those that despise them are actually in a rather tiny minority among the community of players that I play with and run into.

If we weren't forced to tip toe around the topic in-game, I am sure you would find that there is only a tiny portion of the community that are against them.