We're getting stat allocation back in 1.20, right?

[Betelgeuzah]

Your assumption that my "bad choices" are affecting them is what is wrong.

Will your efficiency change due to the result of your decisions? It will. You even admitted it yourself. Then belittled the general opinion of what is considered "doing your job". Which basically means doing everything in your power to perform as efficiently as you possibly can. That's what people expect from each other and themselves. To pull their weight and not be a hindrance. To respect everyone else's 12,95€/$.

[PrettyPrincess]

Will your efficiency change due to the result of your decisions? It will. You even admitted it yourself. Then belittled the general opinion of what is considered "doing your job". Which basically means doing everything in your power to perform as efficiently as you possibly can. That's what people expect from each other and themselves. To pull their weight and not be a hindrance.

You are now assuming you know what my decisions will be in the future.

[Betelgeuzah]

You are now assuming you know what my decisions will be in the future.

The only thing I am assuming is that you give no thought into what other people think when considering said decisions. Which you even admitted yourself, and provided an example to basically prove what I said to be true.

No assumptions here. Just describing what's in front of me.

[PrettyPrincess]

The only thing I am assuming is that you give no thought into what other people think when considering said decisions. Which you even admitted yourself, and provided an example to basically prove what I said to be true.

No assumptions here. Just describing what's in front of me.

Um, no you are assuming. I do take into consideration what my ls suggests. We then discuss such things. We then test such things. We then find what is optimal to us. As I said, I play my roles efficiently. I have had no complaints. And until I hear otherwise, I will continue to play with the freedom that I have.

[Arcell]

Um, no you are assuming. I do take into consideration what my ls suggests. We then discuss such things. We then test such things. We then find what is optimal to us. As I said, I play my roles efficiently. I have had no complaints. And until I hear otherwise, I will continue to play with the freedom that I have.

You do have freedom to a degree, no matter what there are hard facts about stats and what a certain class needs to fulfill their role. The game is restricting you to a certain set of things either way, which you discover through your testing. There is a degree of variance yes but certain builds just need certain stats. True you don't have to follow someone else's build point for point but you do have to stay within certain parameters to be effective.

[Cendres]

Um, no you are assuming. I do take into consideration what my ls suggests. We then discuss such things. We then test such things. We then find what is optimal to us. As I said, I play my roles efficiently. I have had no complaints. And until I hear otherwise, I will continue to play with the freedom that I have.

You've got the right attitude, don't let these others let you down. That's what I hated beyond description about the XI community and their need to control every little thing everyone did, not accepting to even TRY new ways of fighting or job combos because they were not the proven most efficient ones. It might have saved some time but at the same time you have to wonder what was lost.

[PrettyPrincess]

You've got the right attitude, don't let these others let you down. That's what I hated beyond description about the XI community and their need to control every little thing everyone did, not accepting to even TRY new ways of fighting or job combos because they were not the proven most efficient ones. It might have saved some time but at the same time you have to wonder what was lost.

Thank you! I'm glad I have a group of friends that are open minded and not afraid to try different things.

[Masamune1004]

Will your efficiency change due to the result of your decisions? It will. You even admitted it yourself. Then belittled the general opinion of what is considered "doing your job". Which basically means doing everything in your power to perform as efficiently as you possibly can. That's what people expect from each other and themselves. To pull their weight and not be a hindrance. To respect everyone else's 12,95€/$.

Oh no, it's gonna take us 5 seconds more to defeat ifrit because somebody is gimped, lets ostracize that person!

Seriously dude, it's a game, I'm sure even if someone puts their points in somewhat different stats it won't affect their play that much. They'll still be able to do their job even if it takes slightly longer. If it affects them so much that they can't do their job, it's bad game design. You shouldn't have to look at any guide that's not in-game to play the game effectively, or the game is fail.

Also what's the point of stat allocation if everyone has to conform to the optimal build? Why not just make it automatic? I look forward to stat allocation to try different things ( Gladiator DD? Physical Conjurer? Really hope they let us reallocate whenever we want so I can try this stuff)

[Hugus]

It's not the first time have mentined it...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...396#post141396

Attribute and element points will be abolished, and character development will be automated based on class level. A system whereby players can voluntarily allocate attribute points to each class will be implemented in patch 1.20 or later, along with class balance adjustments.

[Jennestia]

You've got the right attitude, don't let these others let you down. That's what I hated beyond description about the XI community

You mean the MMORPG community. I've yet to encounter people that got on my case for "trying something different", then again I've only ever been in 2 end-game NA linkshells, so maybe it's cultural.

For example how from what I hear western players expect CORs to go COR/WHM for events but not COR/(WAR/RNG/SAM), if you're talking about stuff like that, people do that in every single MMO, even more so in MMOs that have proper build support, because they'll expect you to be suited towards x,y,z situations.