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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    I get the feeling that whoever is responsible for their database servers is a gigantic tightwad and is like "NO, WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON A BETTER BACKEND!!" at every turn.

    And that's the polar opposite of how it should be: the database is the very LAST place you want to skimp when it comes to developing an MMO...
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    I would rather have someone who is fanatical about protecting the database against being overstressed than someone who takes a more laissez faire approach. The protective admin will preside over a system which is reliable and performs well, the other will constantly be in meetings to discuss failures of the system or poor performance. Which would you prefer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I would rather have someone who is fanatical about protecting the database against being overstressed than someone who takes a more laissez faire approach. The protective admin will preside over a system which is reliable and performs well, the other will constantly be in meetings to discuss failures of the system or poor performance. Which would you prefer?
    It's more that the database and associated systems sound like they're extremely poorly designed that's the issue.

    I believe it was said that the system uploads the entirety of every character's database every 15 seconds or something, which is why there are so many issues about not letting the database get too large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    It's more that the database and associated systems sound like they're extremely poorly designed that's the issue.

    I believe it was said that the system uploads the entirety of every character's database every 15 seconds or something, which is why there are so many issues about not letting the database get too large.
    Yikes, if that's true it does sound like a lot of unnecessary data is being loaded.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    It's more that the database and associated systems sound like they're extremely poorly designed that's the issue.

    I believe it was said that the system uploads the entirety of every character's database every 15 seconds or something, which is why there are so many issues about not letting the database get too large.
    That's not poor design. That's designed to ensure that rollbacks are not an issue if you get disconnected. If they were to go the route of transaction logs, it would make eco very more difficult and the server would be running a crapton of additional logs. You say that they sound extremely poorly designed? I'd say that your comment was extremely dismissive and glib, unless of course you have experience designing multiple MMORPG databases and administering them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    That's not poor design. That's designed to ensure that rollbacks are not an issue if you get disconnected.
    I can't recall ever disconnecting in other MMOs and losing items or progress I'd already made. They are definitely doing something different, and I really don't think it's helping them in ways that are worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I can't recall ever disconnecting in other MMOs and losing items or progress I'd already made. They are definitely doing something different, and I really don't think it's helping them in ways that are worth it.
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