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  1. #21
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Stop buying things that aren't account wide. Problem solved.
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  2. #22
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    IMO I think all cash shop purchases in regards to minions, mounts, glamours, emotes should be account wide to all characters on the account while keeping consumables such as dyes and fantasia and furnature items as single character per purchase. Though the bigger annoyance to me is that if I make an alt on the same world as my main my alt doesn't have access to my house on my main or an easier way to transfer things from 1 character to another since I haven't found a way to mail anything to an alt either after making one as an experiment.
    All of this stuff should really be account based except the consumables. There's no acceptable excuse for character locking this stuff. And before anyone comes in and tries to educate me on economics, I'm well aware of the business case - though I think account locking with a lower price tier for single character versions has a better business case. Regardless, the business case is not an acceptable excuse for the anti-consumer pricing and usage limitations imposed on MogStation items.
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  3. #23
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valenth View Post
    I believe Yoshi-P explained it once that if they made all of the purchases account wide it would take up too much server space or something, because they'd need to add another "reminder" to one's account every time a new character is created. How true this is I don't know, but that was his answer of it. I believe it was asked about in a Live Letter Q&A not too long ago (if someone remembers and can link me to the actual source).
    That was said some time ago, before the upgraded servers and expanded inventory space. IMHO it's a poor excuse at best, and no longer relevant in any case.
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  4. #24
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Interestingly enough we can share macros now between alts. Would be nice if they increased this capability to mounts, housing access and more. The having to pay for each item on mogstation for many of them there is just not fair and we already pay an additional monthly fee for our alts.
    Macros are saved client side, after all. All what was done was adding an extra macro file that is shared by all characters.

    Ownership of items, on the other hand, is saved by server side

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    All of this stuff should really be account based except the consumables.
    And except event items that was not account wide during the event
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-26-2017 at 12:45 AM.

  5. #25
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    And except event items that was not account wide during the event
    But as it is in most MMOs, events items shouldn't end in Mogstation but be available at least the next year if not every years.

    It already is a problem it ends in mogstation, they at least need to be account wide.

    This game looks more and more designed to fit the chinese market :s
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 08-26-2017 at 12:57 AM.

  6. #26
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valenth View Post
    I believe Yoshi-P explained it once that if they made all of the purchases account wide it would take up too much server space or something
    Every time I see this excuse, I can really only have one response: LOL.

    Just... get it together, SE...
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Every time I see this excuse, I can really only have one response: LOL.

    Just... get it together, SE...
    I get the feeling that whoever is responsible for their database servers is a gigantic tightwad and is like "NO, WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON A BETTER BACKEND!!" at every turn.

    And that's the polar opposite of how it should be: the database is the very LAST place you want to skimp when it comes to developing an MMO...
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  8. #28
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    I get the feeling that whoever is responsible for their database servers is a gigantic tightwad and is like "NO, WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON A BETTER BACKEND!!" at every turn.

    And that's the polar opposite of how it should be: the database is the very LAST place you want to skimp when it comes to developing an MMO...
    enh...

    I would rather have someone who is fanatical about protecting the database against being overstressed than someone who takes a more laissez faire approach. The protective admin will preside over a system which is reliable and performs well, the other will constantly be in meetings to discuss failures of the system or poor performance. Which would you prefer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I would rather have someone who is fanatical about protecting the database against being overstressed than someone who takes a more laissez faire approach. The protective admin will preside over a system which is reliable and performs well, the other will constantly be in meetings to discuss failures of the system or poor performance. Which would you prefer?
    It's more that the database and associated systems sound like they're extremely poorly designed that's the issue.

    I believe it was said that the system uploads the entirety of every character's database every 15 seconds or something, which is why there are so many issues about not letting the database get too large.
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    Valenth Guiran
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    It's more that the database and associated systems sound like they're extremely poorly designed that's the issue.

    I believe it was said that the system uploads the entirety of every character's database every 15 seconds or something, which is why there are so many issues about not letting the database get too large.
    Yikes, if that's true it does sound like a lot of unnecessary data is being loaded.
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