Dragoon Poll (Should DRG have a Wyvern?)

[Vandark]

NO WYVERN!

For the people saying your not a real Dragoon without a Wyvern, I played and mained DRG on XI for years and I can say that this time round I'd like my Fav job to stay strong and not get destroyed Thank you very much! A real Dragoon would never agree with the Wyvern a real Dragoon would be pissed at the very thaught of this horrible mistake occurring 2 games in a row

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Argue about other side...

JPN mostly talk bout the gatherers, they don't really care much about dragoon. So we can see Yoshi is pointing on the NA forums about dragoons, ya?

[Reliquia]

Soooooooo if she had a wyvern she would be a drg right?

What you just said defeated your own argument. Thanks for proving my point in that giant post.

Nope I never said that, I said that dragoon did not come to mind when describing Fang. And I stated what we don't relate to a dragoon when talking about Fang because there are close to no elements that she has that would define a dragoon (and a named a few elements that are identifiable with dragoon). Your point was still a horrible comparison that I will say again for the 3rd time makes no sense, go troll somewhere else.

[Teakwood]

Guys, guys, your wyverns wouldn't want to keep you from reaching your full potential.

Give them up, for their own sake. Make sure a wyvern doesn't cry, tonight.

[Andrien]

Nope I never said that, I said that dragoon did not come to mind when describing Fang. And I stated what we don't relate to a dragoon when talking about Fang because there are close to no elements that she has that would define a dragoon (and a named a few elements that are identifiable with dragoon). Your point was still a horrible comparison that I will say again for the 3rd time makes no sense, go troll somewhere else.

Have you even played FFXIII? You know she uses weapons like Dragoon Lance, and Gungnir right? You even stated yourself she uses "Dragoon-like-abilities". Its painful to see you defend your own mistakes like if they are truth. Lets shift to Kain Highwind instead.. You know what you'll probably call him a lancer since he has no wyvern.. just forget it.

[Rubicon]

i have just found out, dragoon will be getting a pet wyvern but it will not have any moves or a abilities, they will not be nerfing dragoons DD powers. this will please every1 i think. and yes it will look very different to the one in FF11, this one will be invisible. but its ok the owner will know its there

Where did you "found out"?

[Velhart]

Where did you "found out"?

Either you are joking, or you obviously didn't get his joke.

[Rubicon]

Either you are joking, or you obviously didn't get his joke.

Didn't get it cause I wasn't feeling sarcastic at the time. Trolling is hard to keep up with sometimes.

EDIT: Oh, I missed the "invisible" part. NOW I get it.

Also I hate wyvern pets.

[Reliquia]

Have you even played FFXIII? You know she uses weapons like Dragoon Lance, and Gungnir right? You even stated yourself she uses "Dragoon-like-abilities". Its painful to see you defend your own mistakes like if they are truth. Lets shift to Kain Highwind instead.. You know what you'll probably call him a lancer since he has no wyvern.. just forget it.

Oh yeahNO. Her classes can be Commando, Sentinel (her optimal), Ravanger and forgot the last. Just because she uses a lance does not make her a dragoon, and her dragoon-like-abilities are not sufficient. By your logic a warrior with a lance with dragoon sub is a dragoon because he is using a lance/spear and using abilities like jump.

And oh my, did you just compare Fang to Kaim? You seem to repeat your mistake once more only that this time you took a misstep and fell down a staircase. You realize that Kaim has a spear as main weapon, complete set of Dragoon AF gear, the entire arsenal of dragoon abilities, gear AND is the commander of of the Baron Dragoons. That's a hell of a lot more than what I can say of Fang.

Again, tell me how she is supposed to be relevant to this discussion. Your sense of imagination intrigues me.

[AlphaDragoon]

Again, Fang is a character in a single player FF game, with emphasis on characters and story. Our playable characters in this game however are just gray matter that we mold, we mold them after preference, style and after what's available. You also seem to forget that you could be different classes with Fang, none of them being drg, you can view her more like a lancer if you want. Not to mention that FFXIII wasn't revolving around the classic Final Fantasy job system.

Fang might have had dragoon-like abilities, but she wasn't dragoon in the sense of the Final Fantasy dragoon identity. Which now has ID tags like the dragoon AF being the strongest visual one, dragoon abilities being the strongest play-style tag, the dragoon name for obvious purposes and after XI the wyvern has also become a drg trademark.

...What?

She didn't have "the Dragoon identity"? Uh, yeah she did. The Dragoon identity is Jumps, damage and a spear. NOT Wyverns.

Which while we're on the subject, let's just get down to the brass tacks of it. Most of you people arguing in favor of Wyverns want them because specifically they were in FFXI, is that it? You do know that FFXI (and FFII) are the exceptions and not the norm, right? Dragoons have become synonymous with the Jump ability specifically, not having a pet. Not to bring this up yet again, but as many people have already said the most iconic Dragoon character in the series (Kain Highwind) didn't have a pet. Neither did Cid in FFVII. Or Freya in FFIX. Or Fang in FFXIII. Or Kimahri in FFX. Or Lancers in FFT.

You know what they all did have? Jump.